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Sat, 07 Dec 2024 14:14:50 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=finder.org; s=2018; t=1733598886; bh=dUYSujJ4JzG/LV8h0OBurxdcoKd213AJr0dAF/5Z0uM=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=rSSXXJ6s9EgO8mSLMsfd0TFRjlV3Xy719jFSn0FvjeaXfb6J2O1mDvDeqNaWQF8Q7 doMGsdebhRCdl8kzX7p1ng223pnVQrYKXo1eaEVakxpE0K8jsPdkuSWddFsP+doUho wwNbVKtTCJR+ip+xP0hGSsAMbxoJsvXoTbOhihVq1kR/Dl6M/Rt85NNWbf+agbNHMN ZjqDbNGND3gkLS6Ex/w2j1ip51h/0RiScNUZpEn3YzB5HFnEwntWhvKBc/tGobGNDu 8fhJvugpMInHq2UrmphXxg3rUVOoaLX9H9DUedlBBjyVT1EavFB8e8hqa6T4bFdNz1 vWBrsxVOMejBw== Original-Received: from mail.finder.org (unknown [192.155.80.58]) by greenhill.hpalace.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 92847133A; Sat, 7 Dec 2024 19:14:46 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <86r06jisd7.fsf@gnu.org> X-Sender: jared@finder.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:296595 Archived-At: On 2024-12-07 04:34, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Cc: gerd.moellmann@gmail.com, rpluim@gmail.com, >> stephen.berman@gmx.net, >> 74220@debbugs.gnu.org, ampinkas@gmail.com >> Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2024 09:08:06 +0200 >> From: Eli Zaretskii >> >> > Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2024 11:12:39 -0800 >> > From: Jared Finder >> > Cc: stephen.berman@gmx.net, rpluim@gmail.com, gerd.moellmann@gmail.com, >> > 74220@debbugs.gnu.org, ampinkas@gmail.com >> > >> > I think Emacs is a special snowflake in that it doesn't (possibly >> > can't?) rely on the GPM daemon drawing the mouse pointer. I did not see >> > any other app with this problem. I tested Vim, Midnight Commander, Nano, >> > and Bash. I don't know what is special about Emacs here. Perhaps the >> > character under the mouse pointer is treated special in redisplay? Not >> > sure. >> >> Emacs needs to know where the mouse pointer is, and the rest it can >> figure out by itself. So if the GPM daemon drawing the mouse pointer >> allows to know the pointer coordinates in a way that can be correlated >> with the rows and column of the console, we should be okay. >> >> Maybe when the GPM support for Emacs was written, the daemon couldn't >> be used for drawing the pointer? >> >> Anyway, one way to try to solve this is to try to use the >> daemon-drawing of the mouse pointer. >> >> > I will reach out to the kernel mailing list and see if they are ok >> > relaxing the check and fixing this on their end. >> >> Thanks. > > Any progress here? People on the Linux kernel mailing list agree this is a regression on Linux and that my suggested fix is probably appropriate. Tracking page: https://linux-regtracking.leemhuis.info/regzbot/regression/lore/CAG48ez0vg9W=oatvEqxvTSYNUx7htY23LxPrYCiuLZhZQuaGjg@mail.gmail.com/ -- MJF