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I have difficulties understanding what the variable=20 message-mail-user-agent means and what the options mean. The description=20 for this variable doesn't help: > Like =E2=80=98mail-user-agent=E2=80=99. I don't know what this sentence means. > Except if it is nil, use Gnus native MUA; if it is t, use=20 > =E2=80=98mail-user-agent=E2=80=99. Please remove Except from the beginning of the sentence, because=20 non-native English speakers like myself think that "Except if it is nil"=20 means "Whenever not nil". It may be correct, but it's confusing to some=20 people. Perhaps the confusion arises because there's a full stop rather=20 than a comma. If the except links the sentence to the one above, then why write "if it=20 is t, use =E2=80=98mail-user-agent=E2=80=99 ", which is a repetition at thi= s point? Now=20 it looks from the description like there should be two options, but=20 instead there's five. I'm totally at loss!