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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>, 19012@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#19012: 25.0.50; `help-window-select'
Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2014 06:40:35 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b7fd685f-fba5-4b37-9ec3-4621a498c9ad@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <546737E1.6010406@gmx.at>

>  > 1. The `temp-buffer-*-hook's are not only about showing *Help*.
>  >     That workaround thus affects more than it should.
> 
> `temp-buffer-window-setup-hook' is run with *Help* current.  So you
> won't have any problems discriminating this special case.

How so?  (Not clear to me.)

`help-window-select' should be for *Help* functions only, not
for all uses of `with-output-to-temp-buffer'.  But I'm probably
not understanding your point.

>  > 2. Users of `w32*' should not need to do that explicitly
>  >    themselves.  Perhaps Emacs can do the equivalent, itself (but
>  >    limited to *Help*, not affecting all temp buffer display).
> 
> I cannot possibly use a feature like `w32-grab-focus-on-raise' whose
> semantics I neither understand nor can reenact in my environment in
> the frame/window code of Emacs.

Do you mean use for testing (this bug)?  Or do you mean use
in general, for your personal use of Emacs?

`w32*' is an Emacs option.  It is not something non-Emacs (e.g.,
from MS Windows), and it is not something that I dreamed up.
It, like `help-window-select', should work (for Emacs).  No?

> But we could change `help-window-setup' as follows:

Great.

That too (like setting `w32-grab-focus-on-raise' to t in
`temp-buffer-window-setup-hook' and setting it to nil in
`temp-buffer-window-show-hook') seems to fix the problem,
for both the test case and AFAICT in my setup.

Would you please make this change to `help-window-setup'?
If so, I think we can close the bug.

Thanks for your help.





  reply	other threads:[~2014-11-15 14:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-10 16:42 bug#19012: 25.0.50; `help-window-select' Drew Adams
2014-11-10 17:28 ` martin rudalics
2014-11-10 18:23   ` Drew Adams
2014-11-11  8:29     ` martin rudalics
2014-11-11 14:26       ` Drew Adams
2014-11-11 18:31         ` martin rudalics
2014-11-11 19:01           ` Drew Adams
2014-11-11 21:04             ` Drew Adams
2014-11-13  5:12               ` Drew Adams
2014-11-13  7:44                 ` martin rudalics
2014-11-13 15:23                   ` Drew Adams
2014-11-13 16:28                     ` martin rudalics
2014-11-13 16:56                       ` Drew Adams
2014-11-13 18:47                         ` martin rudalics
2014-11-13 19:21                           ` Drew Adams
2014-11-14 11:37                             ` martin rudalics
2014-11-14 15:11                               ` Drew Adams
2014-11-14 16:38                                 ` martin rudalics
2014-11-14 17:09                                   ` Drew Adams
2014-11-14 17:39                                     ` martin rudalics
2014-11-14 17:47                                       ` Drew Adams
2014-11-14 18:10                                         ` martin rudalics
2014-11-14 18:28                                           ` Drew Adams
2014-11-14 18:33                                             ` martin rudalics
2014-11-14 18:44                                               ` Drew Adams
2014-11-14 19:08                                                 ` martin rudalics
2014-11-14 21:21                                                   ` Drew Adams
2014-11-15 11:24                                                     ` martin rudalics
2014-11-15 14:40                                                       ` Drew Adams [this message]
2014-11-16 11:36                                                         ` martin rudalics
2014-11-16 16:20                                                           ` Drew Adams
2014-11-16 17:36                                                             ` martin rudalics
2014-11-16 20:06                                                               ` Drew Adams
2014-11-17  9:29                                                                 ` martin rudalics
2014-11-17 14:29                                                                   ` Drew Adams
2014-12-25 19:30                                                                     ` martin rudalics
2014-11-11 22:16             ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-11 23:10               ` Drew Adams
2014-11-12  1:49                 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-12  2:36                   ` Drew Adams
2014-11-12  4:11                     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-12  7:18                       ` Drew Adams

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