* bug#15358: 24.3.50; Remove message: "You can run the command `make-frame' with <ns-new-frame>"
@ 2013-09-11 20:36 Keith David Bershatsky
2013-09-12 1:30 ` Glenn Morris
0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Keith David Bershatsky @ 2013-09-11 20:36 UTC (permalink / raw
To: 15358
When typing M-x make-frame, a message appears: "You can run the command `make-frame' with <ns-new-frame>".
However, M-x ns-new-frame appears to be a non-existent function.
Thanks,
Keith David Bershatsky
esq@lawlist.com
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* bug#15358: 24.3.50; Remove message: "You can run the command `make-frame' with <ns-new-frame>"
2013-09-11 20:36 bug#15358: 24.3.50; Remove message: "You can run the command `make-frame' with <ns-new-frame>" Keith David Bershatsky
@ 2013-09-12 1:30 ` Glenn Morris
2013-09-12 3:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-09-12 6:56 ` Jan Djärv
0 siblings, 2 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Glenn Morris @ 2013-09-12 1:30 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Keith David Bershatsky; +Cc: 15358
Keith David Bershatsky wrote:
> When typing M-x make-frame, a message appears: "You can run the
> command `make-frame' with <ns-new-frame>".
>
> However, M-x ns-new-frame appears to be a non-existent function.
ns-new-frame is supposed to be some kind of key that you can press, not
a function you can run.
I don't think it is a real key, but rather some "Special
Nextstep-generated event" that pretends to be a key, for some reason.
I dunno.
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* bug#15358: 24.3.50; Remove message: "You can run the command `make-frame' with <ns-new-frame>"
2013-09-12 1:30 ` Glenn Morris
@ 2013-09-12 3:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-09-12 6:56 ` Jan Djärv
1 sibling, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Monnier @ 2013-09-12 3:33 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Glenn Morris; +Cc: Keith David Bershatsky, 15358
>> When typing M-x make-frame, a message appears: "You can run the
>> command `make-frame' with <ns-new-frame>".
>> However, M-x ns-new-frame appears to be a non-existent function.
> ns-new-frame is supposed to be some kind of key that you can press, not
> a function you can run.
> I don't think it is a real key, but rather some "Special
> Nextstep-generated event" that pretends to be a key, for some reason.
> I dunno.
Indeed. And the "helpful" message should be silenced somehow (just
like we try to avoid mentioning menu-bar bindings in those messages).
Stefan
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* bug#15358: 24.3.50; Remove message: "You can run the command `make-frame' with <ns-new-frame>"
2013-09-12 1:30 ` Glenn Morris
2013-09-12 3:33 ` Stefan Monnier
@ 2013-09-12 6:56 ` Jan Djärv
2013-09-12 17:59 ` Stefan Monnier
1 sibling, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Jan Djärv @ 2013-09-12 6:56 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Glenn Morris; +Cc: Keith David Bershatsky, 15358@debbugs.gnu.org
Hello.
12 sep 2013 kl. 03:30 skrev Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org>:
> Keith David Bershatsky wrote:
>
>> When typing M-x make-frame, a message appears: "You can run the
>> command `make-frame' with <ns-new-frame>".
>>
>> However, M-x ns-new-frame appears to be a non-existent function.
>
> ns-new-frame is supposed to be some kind of key that you can press, not
> a function you can run.
>
> I don't think it is a real key, but rather some "Special
> Nextstep-generated event" that pretends to be a key, for some reason.
> I dunno.
When the user right-clicks on the Emacs icon in the dock, there is a New frame command there. nsterm.m turns that event into an Emacs Lisp event,
that keyboard.c with system-key-alist turns into ns-new-frame.
The binding is in the global key map. Is there a better place?
Jan D.
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* bug#15358: 24.3.50; Remove message: "You can run the command `make-frame' with <ns-new-frame>"
2013-09-12 6:56 ` Jan Djärv
@ 2013-09-12 17:59 ` Stefan Monnier
0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Monnier @ 2013-09-12 17:59 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Jan Djärv; +Cc: Keith David Bershatsky, 15358@debbugs.gnu.org
> When the user right-clicks on the Emacs icon in the dock, there is a New
> frame command there. nsterm.m turns that event into an Emacs Lisp event,
> that keyboard.c with system-key-alist turns into ns-new-frame.
> The binding is in the global key map. Is there a better place?
The place looks about right, but these events aren't "key presses",
so just like we don't mention "menu keybindings", we shouldn't mention
these either.
Menu-bar bindings are normally not mentioned in such messages and these
"gui event" bindings shouldn't either. So maybe we should move those
bindings to a submap (e.g. with a `gui' prefix, similar to the
`menu-bar' prefix for menu events), which we can then add to
Vmouse_events (in src/keymap.c).
Stefan
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