From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Katsumi Yamaoka Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#24422: Proposal to create `sieve-manage-ignore-broken-tls' option Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2016 09:08:17 +0900 Organization: Emacsen advocacy group Message-ID: References: <87k2egsxgb.fsf@tsuchiya.vaj.namazu.org> <87fup4gck3.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1473811824 11134 195.159.176.226 (14 Sep 2016 00:10:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2016 00:10:24 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (i686-pc-cygwin) Cc: tsuchiya@namazu.org To: 24422@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 14 02:09:24 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bjxlL-0007lh-QG for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Wed, 14 Sep 2016 00:09:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 24422) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Sep 2016 00:08:25 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58996 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bjxkX-0007rh-8u for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 13 Sep 2016 20:08:25 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-hampton.hostforweb.net ([205.234.186.191]:36882 helo=hampton.hostforweb.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bjxkW-0007rV-17 for 24422@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 13 Sep 2016 20:08:24 -0400 Original-Received: from s70.gtokyofl21.vectant.ne.jp ([202.215.75.70]:60000 helo=localhost) by hampton.hostforweb.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1bjxkO-001rQN-9a; Tue, 13 Sep 2016 19:08:17 -0500 X-Face: #kKnN,xUnmKia.'[pp`; Omh}odZK)?7wQSl"4o04=EixTF+V[""w~iNbM9ZL+.b*_CxUmFk B#Fu[*?MZZH@IkN:!"\w%I_zt>[$nm7nQosZ<3eu; B:$Q_:p!',P.c0-_Cy[dz4oIpw0ESA^D*1Lw= L&i*6&( Cancel-Lock: sha1:BG4qskl9mZgb4BOrpFkbAVLJVq8= X-OutGoing-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - hampton.hostforweb.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - jpl.org X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: hampton.hostforweb.net: authenticated_id: yamaoka/from_h X-Authenticated-Sender: hampton.hostforweb.net: yamaoka@jpl.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:123275 Archived-At: On Tue, 13 Sep 2016 09:21:48 -0400, Ted Zlatanov wrote: > On Tue, 13 Sep 2016 08:08:37 +0900 Katsumi Yamaoka wrote: KY> On Mon, 12 Sep 2016 15:57:24 -0400, TSUCHIYA Masatoshi wrote: >>> When accessing a managesieve server which provides broken TLS >>> connections, it is quite useful that sieve-manage-open-server() ignores >>> STARTTLS capability. Therefore, I propose the following patch. KY> The patch looks fine and not likely to cause a trouble. I've KY> committed it in the Emacs master with this log entry: KY> sieve-manage.el: Allow user to avoid STARTTLS capability test (bug#24422) KY> * lisp/net/sieve-manage.el KY> (sieve-manage-ignore-broken-tls): New user option. KY> (sieve-manage-open-server): KY> Don't test STARTTLS capability if the option is set (bug#24422). > I think the option is badly named. It doesn't ignore broken TLS > (whatever that means), it avoids STARTTLS altogether. So maybe it should > be `sieve-manage-ignore-starttls' or something like that. Agreed. I misunderstood what it tries to do. It is irrelevant if the one is broken or not, it simply makes it not use STARTTLS, and the docstring is correct: "Ignore STARTTLS even if STARTTLS capability is provided." I've renamed it as suggested, with this log entry: sieve-manage.el: Rename sieve-manage-ignore-broken-tls * lisp/net/sieve-manage.el (sieve-manage-ignore-starttls): Rename from sieve-manage-ignore-broken-tls. If it is set, sieve-manage will never use STARTTLS even if the server says it is capable (but may be broken). Thanks.