From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#15117: 24.3.50; doc of `(forward|backward)-*': state return value Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 18:45:26 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: References: <1dc76f7a-5481-41df-b976-ec22229d7283@default> <874n4a42f0.fsf@building.gnus.org> <1281d0fd-77cb-45e2-b99d-f4ad24b0fc4e@default> <87fvnry9lj.fsf@building.gnus.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1392000384 5353 80.91.229.3 (10 Feb 2014 02:46:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 02:46:24 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 15117@debbugs.gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 10 03:46:30 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WCgtB-0007xt-Nv for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 03:46:29 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52987 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WCgtB-0007rv-CK for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 21:46:29 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33568) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WCgst-0007lU-56 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 21:46:26 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WCgsk-0002lw-Hx for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 21:46:11 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:47266) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WCgsk-0002ls-F5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 21:46:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCgsk-000452-5v for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 21:46:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 02:46:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15117 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix Original-Received: via spool by 15117-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15117.139200033213776 (code B ref 15117); Mon, 10 Feb 2014 02:46:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 15117) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Feb 2014 02:45:32 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33049 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCgsG-0003Zl-6d for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 21:45:32 -0500 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:47604) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCgsE-0003Xi-Jp for 15117@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 21:45:31 -0500 Original-Received: from acsinet21.oracle.com (acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id s1A2jTnh009299 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 10 Feb 2014 02:45:30 GMT Original-Received: from aserz7022.oracle.com (aserz7022.oracle.com [141.146.126.231]) by acsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s1A2jTIw021175 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 10 Feb 2014 02:45:29 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0005.oracle.com (abhmp0005.oracle.com [141.146.116.11]) by aserz7022.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s1A2jSD4007372; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 02:45:28 GMT In-Reply-To: <87fvnry9lj.fsf@building.gnus.org> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8 (707110) [OL 12.0.6680.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:85139 Archived-At: > >> They don't seem to return anything useful. Closing. > > > > Where do you get off saying that? Of course it is useful to > > use the return value of a motion function. It saves a call to > > `point', which can simplify the code. (Yes, simple and beautiful > > is in the eye of the reader. But the point is that it is normal > > for users to make use of the return value of a motion function > > that is side-effect free. Reopening. >=20 > If other developers disagree with my closing the bug, they can > reopen. >=20 > Reclosing. I already did disagree. This is quite ludicrous. Just how do you think you are improving things by doing this?