From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Kim Storm Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#30085: 25.2: Documentation for cua-rectangle-mark-mode Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 12:06:58 +0100 Message-ID: References: <20180112071426.uq2x3nlcs6jo57hm@E15-2016.optimum.net> <83mv1j2zz4.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1515755181 13414 195.159.176.226 (12 Jan 2018 11:06:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 11:06:21 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.5.2 Cc: 30085@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii , Boruch Baum Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 12 12:06:16 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eZxA4-0002mX-QU for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 12 Jan 2018 12:06:12 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33907 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eZxC2-0004pm-O0 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 12 Jan 2018 06:08:14 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33994) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eZxBw-0004pF-51 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Jan 2018 06:08:09 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eZxBs-00005y-17 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Jan 2018 06:08:08 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:45045) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eZxBr-00005g-TZ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Jan 2018 06:08:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eZxBq-0008Rs-Ga for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Jan 2018 06:08:03 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Kim Storm Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 11:08:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 30085 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 30085-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B30085.151575522632398 (code B ref 30085); Fri, 12 Jan 2018 11:08:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 30085) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Jan 2018 11:07:06 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52942 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eZxAw-0008QU-Bp for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 12 Jan 2018 06:07:06 -0500 Original-Received: from ssl3.dotserv.com ([178.20.217.13]:56146 helo=ispc3.dotserv.com) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eZxAu-0008Q0-Nm for 30085@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 12 Jan 2018 06:07:05 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ispc3.dotserv.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 400C41037E64; Fri, 12 Jan 2018 12:06:59 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at ispc3.dotserv.com Original-Received: from ispc3.dotserv.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ispc3.dotserv.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id oyiT4ib780ue; Fri, 12 Jan 2018 12:06:59 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from [10.1.82.9] (x1-6-c0-ff-d4-81-22-95.cpe.webspeed.dk [80.161.146.176]) (Authenticated sender: storm@cua.dk) by ispc3.dotserv.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E50371010A30; Fri, 12 Jan 2018 12:06:58 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <83mv1j2zz4.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Language: en-US X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:142079 Archived-At: On 2018-01-12 10:22, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 02:14:26 -0500 >> From: Boruch Baum >> >> File `cua-rect.el' list its author as Kim F. Storm , so >> I've taken the liberty of cc'ing the author on the bug report. @Kim: >> Your work seems like a great improvement over emacs' documented >> rectangle support, but seems to have remained relatively unknown due t= o >> lack of documentation. It should be front and center in any search for >> emacs rectangle support. > Thanks for the comments. Yes, cua-rect facilities are notoriously > under-documented. I would suggest that you (or someone else who uses > cua-rect) propose specific patches to fix that, based on your > experimenting with the facility and code reading. IME, this will > allow us to fill this gap much faster than any other alternative. > > Of course, Kim's contributions to this effort will also be very > welcome. > Just a little history here: In the original cua-mode file, everything was stashed together in the same file, so I had to refactor the code before it was included in Emacs 22.1 So I ended up adding three files: cua-base.el cua-gmrk.eland cua-rect.el knowing that documentation for some of the more advanced stuff still needed some improvements. However, the other emacs maintainers insisted that the cua-rect.el stuff didn't really have anything to do with cua-mode as such, but rather shoul= d be merged into the existing rect.el code. I agreed in principle, but didn't know how to accomplish that, so I left it for someone else to do - and continued to work on other stuff. Obviously, that merge never happened, and therefore, the more advanced rectangle support in cua-rect stays inaccessible for those who don't use cua-mode, and even for cua-mode users, some features are probably not widely used due to lack of documentation. So there are really two issues here: - merge cua-rect and rect code =C2=A0- complete documentation for the combined package I might be able to contribute on the second item, but I still don't know how to accomplish the first.