From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Gregory Heytings via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#43572: Feature request: make it possible to choose whether the first lines of the minibuffer should be displayed instead of the last ones Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2020 16:25:05 +0000 Message-ID: References: <83a6xguy7w.fsf@gnu.org> <83y2kztf9v.fsf@gnu.org> <83ft77t8kh.fsf@gnu.org> <83pn66mngx.fsf@gnu.org> <835z7ym2xe.fsf@gnu.org> <83pn60ehg2.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Gregory Heytings Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="3890"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Alpine 2.22 (NEB 394 2020-01-19) Cc: 43572@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 02 18:26:12 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kONsq-0000v2-6Z for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 02 Oct 2020 18:26:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50998 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kONsp-0003Cu-8O for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 02 Oct 2020 12:26:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58600) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kONsg-0003Aj-Q2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Oct 2020 12:26:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:59074) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kONsg-0002zH-GA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Oct 2020 12:26:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kONsg-0007wA-DH for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Oct 2020 12:26:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Gregory Heytings Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2020 16:26:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 43572 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 43572-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B43572.160165591230450 (code B ref 43572); Fri, 02 Oct 2020 16:26:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 43572) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Oct 2020 16:25:12 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42387 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kONrs-0007v3-NM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 02 Oct 2020 12:25:12 -0400 Original-Received: from mx.sdf.org ([205.166.94.24]:58321) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kONrp-0007ut-Ad for 43572@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 02 Oct 2020 12:25:11 -0400 Original-Received: from sdf.org (IDENT:ghe@otaku.sdf.org [205.166.94.8]) by mx.sdf.org (8.15.2/8.14.5) with ESMTPS id 092GP82r008746 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO); Fri, 2 Oct 2020 16:25:08 GMT Original-Received: (from ghe@localhost) by sdf.org (8.15.2/8.12.8/Submit) id 092GPPQ2016040; Fri, 2 Oct 2020 16:25:25 GMT In-Reply-To: <83pn60ehg2.fsf@gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:189665 Archived-At: >> This feature request can be closed. I found a solution that works >> without changing anything in Emacs core. > > As I wrote on emacs-devel, I don't like the solution you've found. You > are, of course, free to use it in your code, but I don't think we should > adopt it in core Emacs. > Your reaction is saddening. I'm very sorry to read this, but you rejected all my attempts to solve that problem so far, so that's not surprising. I'd bet that there are many places in Emacs where similar "quick and dirty" hacks are used. At least I did my best to solve that problem.