From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Gregory Heytings via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#43572: Feature request: make it possible to choose whether the first lines of the minibuffer should be displayed instead of the last ones Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2020 16:09:25 +0000 Message-ID: References: <83h7rov7xy.fsf@gnu.org> <837dskuvx3.fsf@gnu.org> <833637uubc.fsf@gnu.org> <83mu1ftdkb.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Gregory Heytings Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="7778"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Alpine 2.22 (NEB 394 2020-01-19) Cc: 43572@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 24 18:50:08 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kLURc-0001v2-Cr for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 24 Sep 2020 18:50:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49494 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kLURb-0001b4-El for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 24 Sep 2020 12:50:07 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58710) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kLToo-0007XA-Lh for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Sep 2020 12:10:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:58126) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kLToo-0004j3-BG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Sep 2020 12:10:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kLToo-0000Z8-2L for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Sep 2020 12:10:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Gregory Heytings Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2020 16:10:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 43572 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 43572-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B43572.16009637742136 (code B ref 43572); Thu, 24 Sep 2020 16:10:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 43572) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Sep 2020 16:09:34 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41439 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kLToL-0000YO-SQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 24 Sep 2020 12:09:34 -0400 Original-Received: from mx.sdf.org ([205.166.94.24]:60147) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kLToH-0000YC-92 for 43572@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 24 Sep 2020 12:09:31 -0400 Original-Received: from sdf.org (IDENT:ghe@otaku.sdf.org [205.166.94.8]) by mx.sdf.org (8.15.2/8.14.5) with ESMTPS id 08OG9SYX000926 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO); Thu, 24 Sep 2020 16:09:28 GMT Original-Received: (from ghe@localhost) by sdf.org (8.15.2/8.12.8/Submit) id 08OG9gMD016534; Thu, 24 Sep 2020 16:09:43 GMT In-Reply-To: <83mu1ftdkb.fsf@gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:188884 Archived-At: >> Could you please provide a recipe which would demonstrate a problem >> with the technique I propose? AFAICS, the flag is reset immediately >> when read_minibuf() / read-from-minibuffer has ended. > > That is true, but read_minibuf enters recursive-edit, and while that is > active, any call to resize_mini_window will be affected. > This seems to be a really minor problem. What kind of problems could happen because during a recursive edit while icomplete or ido or ... is active, redisplay is asked to start displaying at BOB? Do you really believe this could lead to a non-minor problem? > > Using a text property for this is easy and mostly boilerplate, and it > completely avoids this issue. > Then I wonder why this did not happen earlier (and wonder when it will happen). A bug report about this exact problem has already been filed five years ago (bug#24293). Five years ago. And the patch I'm proposing is less than ten lines long, and would be most welcome today. > > I already explained why your design is problematic. And so did Stefan. > No, Stefan helped me to improve my design. > > So I don't see why a recipe would be needed. > Indeed, if the only remaining problem is that during a recursive edit while icomplete or ido or ... is active, redisplay is asked to start displaying at BOB instead of BOL, I don't think such a recipe would be convincing.