From: Gregory Heytings via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, 43519@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#43519: 28.0.50; Overlay at end of minibuf hides minibuf's real content
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2020 07:15:15 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.NEB.2.22.394.2009230844430453.6978@sdf.lonestar.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <831ritw6yw.fsf@gnu.org>
>> You explained that my proposal was unacceptable because a change with
>> which no completion candidates are displayed where completion
>> candidates would have been displayed without the change, is
>> unacceptable.
>
> This is a misunderstanding: I was talking about the cases where the text
> in the mini-window comes from buffer text, not from an overlay. The
> simplest example of what I was talking about is what 'message' does when
> it shows a very long message, too long to show in the mini-window in its
> entirety. In that case, Emacs after the change still behaves as I
> described: it shows the last portion of the text.
>
I don't understand how you came to think about something like this. All
examples I gave (and the example with which this bug thread started) were
about completion candidates displayed at EOB with an overlay, and I
mentioned icomplete and ido several times. I never claimed that in the
case you mention the display should start at BOB.
>> In general I don't know, but for the usecase with which this bug
>> started (namely displaying completion candidates after point with an
>> overlay), the answer is clearly and definitely no. The best solution
>> is not to fit the stuff to be displayed to the dimensions of the
>> mini-window, the best solution is to put a too large overlay at EOB and
>> request that the display starts at BOB (and not at BOL as your change
>> does, because this means that the prompt and user input so far can
>> disappear, which is counter-intuitive).
>
> In the simplest case, where there's a single overlay string at EOB,
> these two are identical.
>
In the simplest case they are, in more complex cases they are not. And
I'm proposing a solution that would work in all cases, not just in the
simplest ones.
Let's continue this discussion in bug#43572, where I eagerly wait for your
comments.
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2020-09-19 17:54 bug#43519: 28.0.50; Overlay at end of minibuf hides minibuf's real content Stefan Monnier
2020-09-19 18:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-19 19:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-19 20:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-19 22:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-20 8:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-20 21:04 ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-20 21:31 ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-21 6:50 ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-21 14:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-21 15:02 ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-21 15:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-21 15:44 ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-21 16:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-21 16:27 ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-21 17:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-21 18:42 ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-21 19:37 ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-21 19:37 ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-22 6:57 ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-22 6:57 ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-22 14:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-22 15:52 ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-22 16:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-22 21:01 ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-21 17:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-21 17:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-21 18:45 ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-21 19:37 ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-22 6:58 ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-22 14:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-21 14:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-21 14:31 ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-21 14:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-21 14:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-21 14:18 ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-21 14:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-21 15:26 ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-21 15:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-21 16:00 ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-20 22:40 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-21 7:04 ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-21 14:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-21 17:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-21 17:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-21 19:17 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-21 19:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-22 5:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-22 14:00 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-22 14:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-22 15:51 ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-22 16:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-22 16:17 ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-22 16:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-22 16:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-22 20:06 ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-23 2:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-23 7:15 ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors [this message]
2020-09-23 14:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-21 20:05 ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
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2020-09-23 18:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-22 6:58 ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-22 6:58 ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-20 1:00 ` bug#43519: (no subject) Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-20 6:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-20 8:27 ` bug#43519: 28.0.50; Overlay at end of minibuf hides minibuf's real content Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-20 9:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-20 10:12 ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-20 10:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-20 19:50 ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
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