From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Tino Calancha Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#24518: 25.2.50; dired-mark-extension with prefix arg fails Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 22:02:01 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: References: <837fa1cy6l.fsf@gnu.org> <8337kpcvdc.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1474722198 4810 195.159.176.226 (24 Sep 2016 13:03:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 13:03:18 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (DEB 67 2015-01-07) Cc: Tino Calancha , 24518@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 24 15:03:14 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bnmbq-0000hC-66 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 24 Sep 2016 15:03:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33204 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bnmbo-0001EV-L0 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 24 Sep 2016 09:03:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50677) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bnmbh-0001E3-KH for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Sep 2016 09:03:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bnmbe-0001Ya-Dy for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Sep 2016 09:03:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:56032) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bnmbe-0001YW-BD for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Sep 2016 09:03:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bnmbe-0006eQ-5o for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Sep 2016 09:03:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Tino Calancha Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 13:03:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 24518 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 24518-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B24518.147472213125506 (code B ref 24518); Sat, 24 Sep 2016 13:03:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 24518) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Sep 2016 13:02:11 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33989 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bnmap-0006dK-B5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 24 Sep 2016 09:02:11 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pf0-f169.google.com ([209.85.192.169]:34960) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bnman-0006d7-VJ for 24518@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 24 Sep 2016 09:02:10 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pf0-f169.google.com with SMTP id s13so16333014pfd.2 for <24518@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 24 Sep 2016 06:02:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:date:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:message-id:references :user-agent:mime-version; bh=rDxJkh8sM9T9DmsM3l2oZouC8kadwkirEveDY9QQ4B8=; b=HmZt+a5aUnJeyioM8r4xrXOi3ECITgf1LwGuTye5Hb8qsn7UNahfmnWQa/1+9S+aQi 7BBGY3tRMOMZ4WhTP7TTO5FFdq1X1XgWADoX/8Su84m8jVAi2ISvZdPtmmEIdE45P4qg SL7I2TxkrAq8E7IY7+SUVE9CE7EmgPk6nW1flvG3DKN2Dv59+2X75j05+KmQj1ebwiCV jimln7Hl0Ox/hazoH4OMKaDGQn/4lC+sv8toy7sLqRIRcigyjs/45AAA4OHd8t9iC/3D IfhyuJ4WI/1iZLz/180U17+m/ZBZTQGX6ADPa3ADV1xsJBrNmiTuaVqSor+q/px346Co oDKg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:date:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:message-id :references:user-agent:mime-version; bh=rDxJkh8sM9T9DmsM3l2oZouC8kadwkirEveDY9QQ4B8=; b=DjGOIOwZLG0xEXM3oovufk3w0m1C94gulEUGp9Zha5Y8YmIHXc1imisy2xqpZPTcme mmTIR40h8l6AvcBIOj38ZS0hwOehToEEP9a87lKn4YQNTaq2cgYHZwXmr8g3jJaKLixr FD7lL3iWZ+HB3LUu05oSYAZZIbZ/vMdrx4fTgBi2iH1HpIvAsJ8Ih79ElPkAJvR7c68q 9+NDrJ07b5z9RKhJs7xN4R3cPyLLjd/CrU/unndHwzRORjYYJqOVA5OZZ2Eh96fs/J3W 2zTcLTes3/swZa0wXtivSrr/vIfUadQ+9jiYUQnzo4mo+12xSWHuoMid9PH/hWhnmsb7 kpqw== X-Gm-Message-State: AE9vXwN8WXASt3M2/gonY0q00iPJtcxd8gucN/N4X2DiQIwihZG58of1TEHA29mwf96Ppw== X-Received: by 10.98.184.26 with SMTP id p26mr21933991pfe.71.1474722124304; Sat, 24 Sep 2016 06:02:04 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from calancha-pc (57.92.100.220.dy.bbexcite.jp. [220.100.92.57]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id p1sm18687422pae.12.2016.09.24.06.02.02 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 24 Sep 2016 06:02:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Original-From: Tino Calancha X-X-Sender: calancha@calancha-pc In-Reply-To: <8337kpcvdc.fsf@gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:123633 Archived-At: On Sat, 24 Sep 2016, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Tino Calancha >> Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 21:30:11 +0900 (JST) >> cc: Tino Calancha , 24518@debbugs.gnu.org >> >> >> On Sat, 24 Sep 2016, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> >>> This loses the feature whereby the user could also specify the >>> character to use as the marker. Try "C-u 65 * . el RET" to see what >>> that does. >> That feature has never being available since `dired-x' was added to Emacs >> in 1994: the bug came from the very first commit. No user will miss >> that feature because nobody ever could use it. > > ??? The example I gave works with the unmodified sources. When used > as I've shown, there's no bug, and the command does what I expect. So > how can we be sure no one ever used it that way and won't miss this > optional behavior? > > Can you explain your logic here? Maybe you are a genious. Normal people when we are prompt for a character we expect we can input the textual representation of the character, for example: i will answer K instead of 75 You should admit that your example is tricky. Compare how the user is prompted with: M-x dired-change-marks RET ;; This command expects 'textual' representation of the character. I don't think my patch breaks any feature, because i consider prompting fo a char in hexadecimal not a feature. Maybe for robots, but certainly not for human.