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Mon, 08 Feb 2021 06:44:36 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <877dnjnkh9.fsf@gnus.org> Content-Language: en-US X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:199615 Archived-At: On 08.02.2021 08:26, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Dmitry Gutov writes: > >> But if 'revert-buffer' were to move to 'C-x x u', I wouldn't find it >> odd. Because 'revert-buffer' pretty much has two different jobs: >> >> - There are file-visiting buffers, revert-buffer-function is never >> set, and revert-buffer reverts to contents saved to disk as well as >> re-initializes the modes. Up until now this function never had a >> binding. >> >> - There are non-file-visiting buffers, revert-buffer-function must be >> set, and the command does whatever revert-buffer-function says. This >> is usually bound to 'g', though apparently not always. >> >> If these were two different commands, I don't think much would have >> changed for the vast majority of our users. > > Yes, that's true -- they're really quite different things... but I'm > not sure I feel much enthusiasm for detangling that bit at this point. FWIW, I'm not saying we should split them (the benefits are small), but that keeping revert-buffer on 'g' in special modes and yet on 'C-x x u' otherwise can make sense.