* bug#64574: [PATCH] Support not jumping to bol in beginning-of-defun
@ 2023-07-11 18:15 Spencer Baugh
2023-07-11 18:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Spencer Baugh @ 2023-07-11 18:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 64574
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As mentioned in the commit, this default behavior by
beginning-of-defun is undesirable in some languages and major modes.
I'm thinking of OCaml in particular here, but it's also arguably
unwanted in Python and C++ as well, where defs may be indented inside
class definitions. Let's let users and major modes make this decision
on a case-by-case basis.
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From 12c4f80e046c3c6dd6996e13f332d0eb41d1f1dd Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Spencer Baugh <sbaugh@janestreet.com>
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2023 14:14:34 -0400
Subject: [PATCH] Support not jumping to bol in beginning-of-defun
As mentioned in the commit, this default behavior by
beginning-of-defun is undesirable in some languages and major modes.
I'm thinking of OCaml in particular here, but it's also arguably
unwanted in Python and C++ as well, where defs may be indented inside
class definitions. Let's let users and major modes make this decision
on a case-by-case basis.
* lisp/emacs-lisp/lisp.el (beginning-of-defun-go-beginning-of-line):
Add variable.
(beginning-of-defun): Check variable.
---
lisp/emacs-lisp/lisp.el | 16 +++++++++++++++-
1 file changed, 15 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
diff --git a/lisp/emacs-lisp/lisp.el b/lisp/emacs-lisp/lisp.el
index b91d56cfb4f..70c296b2c31 100644
--- a/lisp/emacs-lisp/lisp.el
+++ b/lisp/emacs-lisp/lisp.el
@@ -335,6 +335,18 @@ kill-backward-up-list
(insert current-sexp))
(user-error "Not at a sexp"))))
\f
+(defvar beginning-of-defun-go-beginning-of-line t
+ "If non-nil, `beginning-of-defun' runs `beginning-of-line' at the end.
+
+By default, `beginning-of-defun' jumps to the beginning of the
+line with `beginning-of-line' after finding the start of the
+defun.
+
+For languages where defuns may be indented inside nested
+structures like classes or modules, this behavior may be
+undesirable. Major modes for such languages can set this
+variable to nil to avoid it.")
+
(defvar beginning-of-defun-function nil
"If non-nil, function for `beginning-of-defun-raw' to call.
This is used to find the beginning of the defun instead of using the
@@ -376,7 +388,9 @@ beginning-of-defun
(and transient-mark-mode mark-active)
(push-mark))
(and (beginning-of-defun-raw arg)
- (progn (beginning-of-line) t)))
+ (progn (when beginning-of-defun-go-beginning-of-line
+ (beginning-of-line))
+ t)))
(defun beginning-of-defun-raw (&optional arg)
"Move point to the character that starts a defun.
--
2.39.3
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* bug#64574: [PATCH] Support not jumping to bol in beginning-of-defun
2023-07-11 18:15 bug#64574: [PATCH] Support not jumping to bol in beginning-of-defun Spencer Baugh
@ 2023-07-11 18:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-12 2:27 ` Jim Porter
2023-07-12 14:57 ` Spencer Baugh
0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2023-07-11 18:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Spencer Baugh; +Cc: 64574
> From: Spencer Baugh <sbaugh@janestreet.com>
> Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2023 14:15:35 -0400
>
> As mentioned in the commit, this default behavior by
> beginning-of-defun is undesirable in some languages and major modes.
> I'm thinking of OCaml in particular here, but it's also arguably
> unwanted in Python and C++ as well, where defs may be indented inside
> class definitions. Let's let users and major modes make this decision
> on a case-by-case basis.
Such optional behavior is fine by me, but is there any evidence enough
people will want it? Can you gather some feedback about that?
> +(defvar beginning-of-defun-go-beginning-of-line t
Why not defcustom?
And I would use a shorter name, like beginning-of-defun-go-bol.
> + "If non-nil, `beginning-of-defun' runs `beginning-of-line' at the end.
This describes implementation, not the behavior. It also assumes
everyone knows what exactly beginning-of-line does (think RTL text).
> +By default, `beginning-of-defun' jumps to the beginning of the
> +line with `beginning-of-line' after finding the start of the
> +defun.
I see no reason to tell in the doc string how exactly the function
goes to BOL. It can even be a problem if at some future point we
decide to change the implementation.
> +For languages where defuns may be indented inside nested
> +structures like classes or modules, this behavior may be
> +undesirable. Major modes for such languages can set this
> +variable to nil to avoid it.")
Not sure we should leave this to major modes and not to the individual
users.
Thanks.
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* bug#64574: [PATCH] Support not jumping to bol in beginning-of-defun
2023-07-11 18:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2023-07-12 2:27 ` Jim Porter
2023-07-12 14:57 ` Spencer Baugh
1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Jim Porter @ 2023-07-12 2:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii, Spencer Baugh; +Cc: 64574
On 7/11/2023 11:50 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> Such optional behavior is fine by me, but is there any evidence enough
> people will want it? Can you gather some feedback about that?
For what it's worth, I'd probably use this.
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* bug#64574: [PATCH] Support not jumping to bol in beginning-of-defun
2023-07-11 18:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-12 2:27 ` Jim Porter
@ 2023-07-12 14:57 ` Spencer Baugh
2023-07-22 13:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-03 11:44 ` Stefan Kangas
1 sibling, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Spencer Baugh @ 2023-07-12 14:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 64574
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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>> From: Spencer Baugh <sbaugh@janestreet.com>
>> Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2023 14:15:35 -0400
>>
>> As mentioned in the commit, this default behavior by
>> beginning-of-defun is undesirable in some languages and major modes.
>> I'm thinking of OCaml in particular here, but it's also arguably
>> unwanted in Python and C++ as well, where defs may be indented inside
>> class definitions. Let's let users and major modes make this decision
>> on a case-by-case basis.
>
> Such optional behavior is fine by me, but is there any evidence enough
> people will want it? Can you gather some feedback about that?
Users at my site have expressed a preference for this (including me,
once I thought about it enough to realize I don't like the default
behavior). And Jim Porter just mentioned that they would prefer this
too.
>> +(defvar beginning-of-defun-go-beginning-of-line t
>
> Why not defcustom?
>
> And I would use a shorter name, like beginning-of-defun-go-bol.
Can do.
>> + "If non-nil, `beginning-of-defun' runs `beginning-of-line' at the end.
>
> This describes implementation, not the behavior. It also assumes
> everyone knows what exactly beginning-of-line does (think RTL text).
>
>> +By default, `beginning-of-defun' jumps to the beginning of the
>> +line with `beginning-of-line' after finding the start of the
>> +defun.
>
> I see no reason to tell in the doc string how exactly the function
> goes to BOL. It can even be a problem if at some future point we
> decide to change the implementation.
Can do.
>> +For languages where defuns may be indented inside nested
>> +structures like classes or modules, this behavior may be
>> +undesirable. Major modes for such languages can set this
>> +variable to nil to avoid it.")
>
> Not sure we should leave this to major modes and not to the individual
> users.
>
> Thanks.
Sure, I'm fine with having it be a defcustom that users can set.
Revised patch:
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From be03d6e994303c3f32d676194f6f31e89917013e Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Spencer Baugh <sbaugh@janestreet.com>
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2023 14:14:34 -0400
Subject: [PATCH] Support not jumping to bol in beginning-of-defun
As mentioned in the commit, this default behavior by
beginning-of-defun may be undesirable in some languages and major
modes. I'm thinking of OCaml in particular here, but it's also
arguably unwanted in Python and C++ as well, where defs may be
indented inside class definitions. Let's let the user make this
decision.
* lisp/emacs-lisp/lisp.el (beginning-of-defun-go-bol): Add defcustom.
(beginning-of-defun): Check beginning-of-defun-go-bol.
---
lisp/emacs-lisp/lisp.el | 20 ++++++++++++++++----
1 file changed, 16 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
diff --git a/lisp/emacs-lisp/lisp.el b/lisp/emacs-lisp/lisp.el
index b91d56cfb4f..e5b024b19a6 100644
--- a/lisp/emacs-lisp/lisp.el
+++ b/lisp/emacs-lisp/lisp.el
@@ -335,6 +335,17 @@ kill-backward-up-list
(insert current-sexp))
(user-error "Not at a sexp"))))
\f
+(defcustom beginning-of-defun-go-bol t
+ "If non-nil, `beginning-of-defun' moves to beginning of line.
+
+By default, `beginning-of-defun' point moves to the beginning of
+the line where a defun starts. For languages where defuns may be
+indented inside nested structures like classes or modules, this
+behavior may be undesirable."
+ :type '(choice (const :tag "Don't go to BOL in beginning-of-defun" nil)
+ (const :tag "Go to BOL in beginning-of-defun" t))
+ :group 'lisp)
+
(defvar beginning-of-defun-function nil
"If non-nil, function for `beginning-of-defun-raw' to call.
This is used to find the beginning of the defun instead of using the
@@ -367,16 +378,17 @@ beginning-of-defun
value is called as a function, with argument ARG, to find the
defun's beginning.
-Regardless of the values of `defun-prompt-regexp' and
-`beginning-of-defun-function', point always moves to the
-beginning of the line whenever the search is successful."
+If `beginning-of-defun-go-bol' is non-nil, point moves to the
+beginning of the line if the search is successful."
(interactive "^p")
(or (not (eq this-command 'beginning-of-defun))
(eq last-command 'beginning-of-defun)
(and transient-mark-mode mark-active)
(push-mark))
(and (beginning-of-defun-raw arg)
- (progn (beginning-of-line) t)))
+ (progn (when beginning-of-defun-go-bol
+ (beginning-of-line))
+ t)))
(defun beginning-of-defun-raw (&optional arg)
"Move point to the character that starts a defun.
--
2.39.3
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* bug#64574: [PATCH] Support not jumping to bol in beginning-of-defun
2023-07-12 14:57 ` Spencer Baugh
@ 2023-07-22 13:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-03 11:44 ` Stefan Kangas
1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2023-07-22 13:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Spencer Baugh; +Cc: 64574
> From: Spencer Baugh <sbaugh@janestreet.com>
> Cc: 64574@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2023 10:57:50 -0400
>
> Revised patch:
Thanks. Please add a NEWS entry, and we can install this then.
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* bug#64574: [PATCH] Support not jumping to bol in beginning-of-defun
2023-07-12 14:57 ` Spencer Baugh
2023-07-22 13:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2023-09-03 11:44 ` Stefan Kangas
1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Kangas @ 2023-09-03 11:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Spencer Baugh; +Cc: Eli Zaretskii, 64574
Spencer Baugh <sbaugh@janestreet.com> writes:
> Users at my site have expressed a preference for this (including me,
> once I thought about it enough to realize I don't like the default
> behavior). And Jim Porter just mentioned that they would prefer this
> too.
I'd use it too.
>>> +(defvar beginning-of-defun-go-beginning-of-line t
>>
>> Why not defcustom?
>>
>> And I would use a shorter name, like beginning-of-defun-go-bol.
>
> Can do.
Perhaps `beginning-of-defun-jumps-to-bol'?
>>From be03d6e994303c3f32d676194f6f31e89917013e Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> From: Spencer Baugh <sbaugh@janestreet.com>
> Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2023 14:14:34 -0400
> Subject: [PATCH] Support not jumping to bol in beginning-of-defun
>
> As mentioned in the commit, this default behavior by
> beginning-of-defun may be undesirable in some languages and major
> modes. I'm thinking of OCaml in particular here, but it's also
> arguably unwanted in Python and C++ as well, where defs may be
> indented inside class definitions. Let's let the user make this
> decision.
Your patch still lacks a NEWS item before it can be installed.
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