From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#18367: 24.4.50; [PATCH] Text property `font-lock-ignore', to protect from font-lock Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 10:14:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: References: <86f1a219-9ab5-439f-85ca-936b942cb034@default> <87iok5t5ud.fsf@web.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1412097330 772 80.91.229.3 (30 Sep 2014 17:15:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 17:15:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 18367@debbugs.gnu.org To: michael_heerdegen@web.de, Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 30 19:15:23 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XZ11E-0004XD-Mj for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 30 Sep 2014 19:15:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44533 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XZ11E-0000BF-8U for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 30 Sep 2014 13:15:20 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49007) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XZ114-00009n-Aa for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Sep 2014 13:15:17 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XZ10x-0000er-4R for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Sep 2014 13:15:10 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:36751) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XZ10x-0000eY-18 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Sep 2014 13:15:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XZ10w-0000OT-Hc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Sep 2014 13:15:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 17:15:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18367 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 18367-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18367.14120972801469 (code B ref 18367); Tue, 30 Sep 2014 17:15:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 18367) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Sep 2014 17:14:40 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56548 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XZ10Z-0000Nc-UK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 30 Sep 2014 13:14:40 -0400 Original-Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:43639) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XZ10X-0000NT-4q for 18367@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 30 Sep 2014 13:14:38 -0400 Original-Received: from acsinet21.oracle.com (acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id s8UHEYq7026947 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 30 Sep 2014 17:14:35 GMT Original-Received: from userz7021.oracle.com (userz7021.oracle.com [156.151.31.85]) by acsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s8UHEWvQ013960 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 30 Sep 2014 17:14:33 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0013.oracle.com (abhmp0013.oracle.com [141.146.116.19]) by userz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s8UHEW47003112; Tue, 30 Sep 2014 17:14:32 GMT In-Reply-To: <87iok5t5ud.fsf@web.de> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8.2 (807160) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:93929 Archived-At: > > > Bug or missing feature: Prevent font-lock from changing text > > > properties on text that has property `font-lock-ignore'. See > > > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2014- > > > 08/msg00540.html > > > > Could you add a short explanation for why font-lock-face is > > not sufficient? >=20 > I'm not sure about that question. But I see a problem in cases > where packages use the 'face property without using font-lock... > and other packages come and invoke font-lock in such a buffer.... > In such a case, all the fontification with 'face is erased. >=20 > I guess it is an error to use 'face in any buffer that could become > subject to font-locking caused by some mode or package. If that's > the case - if it is recommended to use font-lock-face in all these > situations, we should say in the manual that 'face is dangerous to > use in such situations: (info "(elisp) Special Properties") It should not be "an error" to use `face' in a font-locked buffer. That's precisely the problem, IMO: Font-lock has taken over property `face'. That's not right. It does not (should not) own `face'. There should at least be a simple way to say "Hands off this occurrence of `face'!"