From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#7822: 24.0.50; `fit-window-to-buffer': take display artefacts into account Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 11:24:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: References: <541F129D.3000402@gmx.at> <541FE5A4.8030900@gmx.at> <867a1372-84f3-4c30-89df-49cc2cbd06dc@default> <54205FA1.7020106@gmx.at> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1411411286 2611 80.91.229.3 (22 Sep 2014 18:41:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 18:41:26 +0000 (UTC) To: martin rudalics , 7822-done@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 22 20:41:17 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XW8Y0-0000mG-2P for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 22 Sep 2014 20:41:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48304 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XW8Xz-0007Gl-NO for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 22 Sep 2014 14:41:15 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34873) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XW8Xl-00077c-KK for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Sep 2014 14:41:10 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XW8Xc-0002ys-Si for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Sep 2014 14:41:01 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:57582) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XW8Xc-0002yQ-Oi for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Sep 2014 14:40:52 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XW8II-000818-Sd for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Sep 2014 14:25:03 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 18:25:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7822 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 7822-done@debbugs.gnu.org id=D7822.141141029030778 (code D ref 7822); Mon, 22 Sep 2014 18:25:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 7822-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Sep 2014 18:24:50 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49131 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XW8I5-00080M-Qr for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 22 Sep 2014 14:24:50 -0400 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:44789) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XW8I3-00080C-7f for 7822-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 22 Sep 2014 14:24:48 -0400 Original-Received: from ucsinet22.oracle.com (ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id s8MIOjEG021731 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 22 Sep 2014 18:24:46 GMT Original-Received: from userz7022.oracle.com (userz7022.oracle.com [156.151.31.86]) by ucsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.5+Sun/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s8MIOif2015508 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 22 Sep 2014 18:24:44 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0013.oracle.com (abhmp0013.oracle.com [141.146.116.19]) by userz7022.oracle.com (8.14.5+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s8MIOhpG015483; Mon, 22 Sep 2014 18:24:44 GMT In-Reply-To: <54205FA1.7020106@gmx.at> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8.2 (807160) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:93643 Archived-At: > If you can give a practical example where the present code fails to > do what you want, feel free to reopen the bug. I think I understand your reply, but I don't see anything in it that directly answers the question: Does a user have a way to "tell it *not* to take any display stuff into account (i.e., to treat the buffer content as just plain text with a fixed-width font of the current char size)"? IOW, optional simple fit, disregarding/ignoring display artefacts. The ER is for that and more. It asks that a user be able to control "how much" it "takes display artefacts into account". But just being able to tell it not to take any into account would probably be acceptable. If there is no way to even do that then the ER is not satisfied, and it should be left open until a user has the option of turning off this taking-display-artefacts-into-account.