From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#42993: 26.3; [PATCH] Let Info bookmarks go to current, not recorded, version of manual Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2020 09:32:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: References: <<1e8dbcb9-e47f-48fd-a34a-f1cf304ba4cc@default>> <<83mu2l98tg.fsf@gnu.org>> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="26098"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 42993@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii , Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Aug 23 18:33:14 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1k9svi-0006iU-39 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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Sun, 23 Aug 2020 16:32:12 +0000 Original-Received: from pps.filterd (userp3030.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by userp3030.oracle.com (8.16.0.42/8.16.0.42) with SMTP id 07NGV9gf176147; Sun, 23 Aug 2020 16:32:11 GMT Original-Received: from userv0121.oracle.com (userv0121.oracle.com [156.151.31.72]) by userp3030.oracle.com with ESMTP id 333r9gbq2e-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Sun, 23 Aug 2020 16:32:11 +0000 Original-Received: from abhmp0008.oracle.com (abhmp0008.oracle.com [141.146.116.14]) by userv0121.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id 07NGWAB5010995; Sun, 23 Aug 2020 16:32:11 GMT In-Reply-To: <<83mu2l98tg.fsf@gnu.org>> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.5044.0 (x86)] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9722 signatures=668679 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 adultscore=0 phishscore=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 spamscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 mlxscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2006250000 definitions=main-2008230185 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9722 signatures=668679 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 mlxscore=0 phishscore=0 impostorscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 lowpriorityscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 clxscore=1011 priorityscore=1501 malwarescore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2006250000 definitions=main-2008230185 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:186063 Archived-At: > > An Info bookmark, like most bookmarks, records the target file as an > > absolute file name. When you jump to an Info bookmark it jumps to the > > recorded node in that Info file. > > > > But what if you have Info bookmarks that were recorded for older Emacs > > versions? They typically have different absolute file names. When you > > jump to such a bookmark it will go to the manual for that older Emacs > > version, if you still have it installed (and the Info files are at the > > same locations as recorded by the bookmark). >=20 > The "official" way of installing Emacs will put the Info files into a > single directory, so installing a newer version will overwrite the > Info files with those of the newer version, leaving the absolute file > name of the manual unchanged. >=20 > So it sounds like you are suggesting a solution for a problem that > happens only for users who for some reason install each Emacs version > in a different place. How many such users are there? You make a good point. I don't know how many such users there are. I do think Emacs should support such use cases. I see no reason that it shouldn't. As I said, I consider it a feature to be able to have Info bookmarks to manuals for different Emacs versions. Another consideration is using the same bookmarks across different systems (e.g. MS Windows and GNU/Linux), where the absolute locations, even for "official installations" are likely to differ. Requiring an Info bookmark to work only with its absolute file name is, I think, unnecessarily restrictive, even if it can also be useful (see above: it's a feature). But the point you make is certainly another argument supporting user control of the behavior (e.g. an option).