From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#28338: 25.2; Default fonts for Info Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2017 09:36:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: References: <> <<837exfyej8.fsf@gnu.org>> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1504456724 16913 195.159.176.226 (3 Sep 2017 16:38:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2017 16:38:44 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 28338@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 03 18:38:26 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1doXuU-0002tM-Rm for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 03 Sep 2017 18:38:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59077 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1doXub-0006Yy-NB for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 03 Sep 2017 12:38:17 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41101) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1doXuR-0006YH-P6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Sep 2017 12:38:12 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1doXuM-00054T-F0 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Sep 2017 12:38:07 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:37962) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1doXuM-00054E-Bk for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Sep 2017 12:38:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1doXuL-0001M5-VN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Sep 2017 12:38:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2017 16:38:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 28338 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 28338-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B28338.15044566245144 (code B ref 28338); Sun, 03 Sep 2017 16:38:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 28338) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Sep 2017 16:37:04 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46643 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1doXtQ-0001Kt-EQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Sep 2017 12:37:04 -0400 Original-Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:51669) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1doXtP-0001KQ-4Q for 28338@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Sep 2017 12:37:03 -0400 Original-Received: from userv0022.oracle.com (userv0022.oracle.com [156.151.31.74]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id v83GauKQ027068 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Sun, 3 Sep 2017 16:36:56 GMT Original-Received: from userv0122.oracle.com (userv0122.oracle.com [156.151.31.75]) by userv0022.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id v83GatEW003751 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Sun, 3 Sep 2017 16:36:56 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0005.oracle.com (abhmp0005.oracle.com [141.146.116.11]) by userv0122.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id v83GasDW003850; Sun, 3 Sep 2017 16:36:55 GMT In-Reply-To: <<837exfyej8.fsf@gnu.org>> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 12.0.6774.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: userv0022.oracle.com [156.151.31.74] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:136545 Archived-At: > > Personally, I'd prefer that the default font families be the same: > > Courier (New) - as has always been the case before Emacs 25.2. (Was > > this change in default behavior even discussed on emacs-devel@gnu.org?) Clearly I was speaking of the default font families for unquoted and quoted Info text. > There was no change,=20 Clearly there _was_ a change in the default font family used for quoted Info text. That's what this bug report is about. > Courier New was and remains the default font. That's not the issue. No one said otherwise. > The only change is that Info-quoted is a new face introduced > relatively recently. (It took us a few iterations to find > a good font for that face.) I meant a change in the font used for quoted text. Clearly there was such a change. That "only change" is what this bug report is about - the default font for that face. I suggest another iteration for the "we", whomever that might have included (I saw no discussion of it.) I suggest that Courier New should be the default font for that face (as well as be the general default). We have had faces that are defined for customization purposes but whose default appearance is the same as the default face. > > (I'd also prefer that a color be used by default to distinguish > > face `Info-quoted', but I don't expect that suggestion to fly.) >=20 > You can always customize the face to fit your taste, of course. It's not about my personal use. I filed the bug for Emacs users in general. Though, as I say, I don't expect that suggestion to fly, it's still my suggestion. FWIW, I have, in my library info+.el, had a face for quoted text in Info since at least as long ago as 1996. (And I suggested that Emacs do similarly several times since, to no avail.) In info+.el I have never used a different font for the default value of that face. I've (always) used a different color. No users have complained about that, since 1996...