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From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: 53749@debbugs.gnu.org, Ikumi Keita <ikumi@ikumi.que.jp>,
	David Fussner <dfussner@googlemail.com>,
	Arash Esbati <arash@gnu.org>,
	stefankangas@gmail.com, Tassilo Horn <tsdh@gnu.org>,
	Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Subject: bug#53749: 29.0.50; [PATCH] Xref backend for TeX buffers
Date: Sun, 26 May 2024 02:01:28 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a9530d92-b77a-4a3e-bb4a-d9b34a05ac93@yandex.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvv839i58b.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>

On 20/05/2024 05:38, Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the 
Swiss army knife of text editors wrote:
>>> Hmm... not sure it's worth the trouble, then.
>>> Also, it might be worth trying to see where those 4-10% are spent: this
>>> is done in a temp buffer where there should presumably be very little
>>> need for before/after-change-functions, so maybe we can get rid of the
>>> specific offenders rather than inhibit all modification hooks.
>> Given the relatively low percentages, it might be difficult to glance from
>> a profiler report. I was assuming the time was mostly spent in
>> syntax-ppss-flush-cache, but the function is pretty simple.
> 
> Rather than a profiler report, maybe a better approach would be to
> remove things from the non-inhibited-modification-hooks paths and see
> how/if they change the performance.
> E.g. replace the `inhibit-modification-hooks` binding by one that binds
> `before/after-change-functions` to nil.
> 
>>> I wonder what we do during those 20% of the time if the buffer is left
>>> in fundamental-mode.
>> Good question.
> 
> It's probably the better case to investigate since it might be easier to
> see the effects.

Revisiting this, I haven't been able to reproduce the 20% number. :-(

The effect of that specific inhibit-modification-hooks binding seems to 
stay around 4-8%, and it's actually on the higher end when the 
set-auto-mode call it present (probably due to text manipulation inside it).

Binding before/after-change-functions, both of the hooks have their 
impact - one more than the other, but like 60/40. Maybe just funcall 
overhead.

>>>>> Also, what about the other two bindings of `inhibit-modification-hooks`?
>>>> The other two are used while the contents of the Xref buffer are printed (or
>>>> re-printed), so there's none of the syntax-ppss complications there. The
>>>> performance difference is 8.5% in my last measurement.
>>> Is this 8.5% of a function that's fast anyway of 8.5% of a function
>>> which takes a fair bit of time?
>> When there are a lot of matches, it can take some time. Note that 100% in
>> this case is the whole list-files-do-search-print-results pipeline, not just
>> the printing phase. So printing is sped up by more than 8% (my last test
>> says it's by 27%).
> 
> I guess during printing if it's done in many small steps we may indeed
> run modification hooks many times, so that could explain the
> higher percentage.
> 
> It still seems hard to justify 27% since those modification hooks should
> usually do nothing, AFAICT.  Maybe there's something silly going on.

On this step (xref--show-common-initialize) the numbers still hold, 
however. What's different, is that replacing the 
inhibit-modification-hooks with two (before-change-functions and 
after-change-functions both to nil) doesn't have a similar effect. Which 
makes sense, since the buffer is almost in fundamental-mode, both hooks 
are nil there.

Binding create-lockfiles or select-active-regions to nil doesn't have 
any impact. And replacing the use of all of the above with 
combine-change-calls makes performance worse.

If we're going to continue this subthread, it's probably better to move 
it somewhere else (separate bug, or emacs-devel).





  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-05-25 23:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-03 15:09 bug#53749: 29.0.50; [PATCH] Xref backend for TeX buffers David Fussner via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-02-21  2:11 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-02-21  9:48   ` David Fussner via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-02-21 17:28     ` David Fussner via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-02-21 23:56       ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-02-22 15:19         ` David Fussner via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-02-23  2:21           ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-02-23 10:45             ` David Fussner via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-02-24  2:23               ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-02-24 13:15                 ` David Fussner via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-02-21 23:55     ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-09-08 13:25   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-09-08 13:34     ` David Fussner via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-09-08 13:39       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-09-08 15:50         ` David Fussner via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-03  9:08           ` Stefan Kangas
2023-09-03 10:03             ` David Fussner via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-03 10:46               ` Stefan Kangas
2023-09-13 11:10                 ` David Fussner via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-13 13:42                   ` Stefan Kangas
2023-09-13 15:23                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-09-13 17:01                     ` David Fussner via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-13 23:59                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-09-14  6:10                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-15 18:45                           ` Tassilo Horn
2023-09-16  5:53                             ` Ikumi Keita
2023-09-17  8:49                               ` David Fussner via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-04-22 13:06                                 ` Arash Esbati
2024-04-22 14:56                                   ` David Fussner via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-04-22 16:15                                     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-04-22 16:37                                       ` David Fussner via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-04-22 17:16                                         ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-04-22 17:25                                           ` David Fussner via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-04-24  0:09                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-04-24  9:02                                             ` David Fussner via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-04-23 12:04                                     ` Arash Esbati
2024-04-23 13:21                                       ` David Fussner via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-04-29 14:15                                   ` David Fussner via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-02  0:43                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-05-02 13:32                                       ` David Fussner via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-03 13:42                                         ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-07  2:27                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-05-09  3:00                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-05-09  6:38                                               ` David Fussner via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-09 10:49                                               ` David Fussner via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-13 20:54                                               ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-14 21:24                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-05-16 18:18                                                   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-20  0:21                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-05-20  2:38                                                       ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-25  7:57                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-05  9:46                                                           ` David Fussner via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-06-08 12:38                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-08 20:54                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-06-09 11:10                                                             ` Stefan Kangas
2024-06-09 11:36                                                             ` Stefan Kangas
2024-06-09 18:42                                                               ` David Fussner via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-06-09 18:45                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-06-09 21:03                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-06-09 22:13                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-06-10 13:29                                                                     ` David Fussner via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-25 23:01                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov [this message]
2024-05-07  2:06                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-05-02  6:47                                     ` Arash Esbati
2024-05-02 13:34                                       ` David Fussner via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-03 14:10                                     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-04  8:26                                       ` David Fussner via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-04 14:32                                       ` Arash Esbati
2024-05-04 14:54                                         ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-04 21:15                                           ` Arash Esbati
2024-05-07 13:15                                       ` David Fussner via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-15 15:47                                       ` David Fussner via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-16  7:53                                         ` Arash Esbati
2024-05-16 12:56                                           ` David Fussner via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-14 16:11                         ` David Fussner via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-14 23:55                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-09-15  6:47                             ` David Fussner via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-13 19:16                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-13 20:25                       ` David Fussner via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-14  5:14                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-21 12:35 ` Arash Esbati
2022-02-21 14:03   ` David Fussner via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-02-25 20:16 ` Augusto Stoffel
2022-02-26  9:29   ` David Fussner via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-02-26 10:56     ` Augusto Stoffel
2022-02-27 18:42       ` Arash Esbati
2022-02-28  9:09         ` David Fussner via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-02-28 11:54           ` Arash Esbati
2022-02-28 13:11             ` Augusto Stoffel
2022-02-28 19:04               ` Arash Esbati
2022-03-01  8:46                 ` David Fussner via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-02-28 13:05           ` Augusto Stoffel

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