From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: 29077@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#29077: 26.0; NEWS: "Values in call stack frames are now displayed using `cl-prin1'"
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2017 15:18:57 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <a944383a-f532-4398-8ff5-26b6bacf5253@default> (raw)
[Note: I could not send this from the Emacs 26 pretest, because of bug #29074. I'm just mailing this in.]
1. The NEWS entry says only this (with British spelling, BTW):
The old behaviour of using 'prin1' can be restored by customizing the
new option 'debugger-print-function'.
That doesn't tell a user how to restore the old behavior. Please tell
us what print function to use to get the old behavior.
The defcustom for `debugger-print-function' should offer a set of reasonable choices, plus let you specify an arbitrary function. Those choices should include cl-prin1 and whatever the previously used print function was (what was it? clearly it was not `print').
2. Also, the function used is apparently really `cl-prin1', and there is NO doc for that function. C-h f cl-prin1 shows this:
cl-prin1 is an autoloaded Lisp closure in `cl-print.el'.
(cl-prin1 OBJECT &optional STREAM)
Not documented.
That's another bug, but please fix it as part of this report.
3. Also, is the backtrace really printed using prin1 or cl-prin1? I have print-length and print-level set to nil and print-circle set to t or nil (neither helps). I turn off truncated lines. And yet for a return value that is a list of 57 elements in *Backtrace* I cannot move to the end of the list - the displayed list is truncated after a bit.
That's useless. Users should be able to get a full *Backtrace*, being able to move over full Lisp objects such as lists.
I don't see this problem in previous Emacs releases.
This "feature" (of cl-prin1 or whatever) has apparently not been road-tested. Please revert it as the default behavior. Let users opt in to use it, until you get it to work. It's generally a bad idea to change the default behavior to some new, untested behavior. Let users try it out for a few releases, before deciding to make it the new default behavior.
next reply other threads:[~2017-10-30 22:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-10-30 22:18 Drew Adams [this message]
2017-10-30 23:27 ` bug#29077: 26.0; NEWS: "Values in call stack frames are now displayed using `cl-prin1'" Noam Postavsky
2017-10-31 16:41 ` Drew Adams
2017-10-31 22:56 ` Noam Postavsky
2017-11-01 2:59 ` Drew Adams
2017-11-01 13:23 ` Noam Postavsky
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