From: Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net>, 8705@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#8705: 23.3; Emacs occasionally crashes (segfault) just after starting it
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2014 16:03:13 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <a7eguhf1tq.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvsijdya91.fsf-monnier+bug#8705@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Sat, 27 Sep 2014 00:10:18 -0400")
Stefan Monnier wrote:
>> Any news on this bug? Debian's GNU Emacs 24.3.1 is still affected.
>
> Same question here.
Comments from https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=699325#17:
> What emacs appears to be doing is:
>
> * vfork() in thread A
> - parent: thread A suspended
> - parent: threads B, C, ... (one of which is the Gtk GUI) continue
> - child: "shares all memory with its parent, including the stack"
> per vfork(2)
>
> * child copies environ and modifies the copy as needed
>
> RACE:
> child + parent thread A:
> * changes the global environ pointer, potentially making it point to
> a new mmap() that only exists in the child process (or something?)
> * child: calls execvp()
> * parent: thread A resumes and puts the old environ back
> parent threads B, C...
> * threads B, C, ... continue their work and might call getenv()
>
> If the child wins the race, everything's OK; if the parent's threads B,
> C... "win" the race, everything explodes. It seems that Gtk, in the
> parent's GUI thread, is now more likely to "win" the race and crash,
> because new features like touchscreen support have the side-effect that
> it calls getenv() more often.
>
> On the upstream emacs bug, Troels Nielsen wrote:
> > In the meantime, retaining support for vfork would be nice, because
> > on some platforms, like Cygwin, fork is still very slow
>
> but on Linux (and hopefully also *BSD and Hurd), fork() is quite fast,
> and considerably less crashy. I would suggest changing the vfork() call
> to fork(), making sure the environ rewriting is only done in the child
> side of the fork(), and seeing whether that helps.
>
> Alternatively, emacs could use execvpe() instead of execve() on
> platforms where it exists (including all GNU platforms as far as I
> know), so that it does not need to alter the value of environ at all on
> such platforms. I think that would fix this?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-10-09 20:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-05-20 8:54 bug#8705: 23.3; Emacs occasionally crashes (segfault) just after starting it Vincent Lefevre
2011-05-20 9:12 ` Vincent Lefevre
2011-05-20 10:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-05-20 11:16 ` Vincent Lefevre
2011-05-20 11:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-05-20 12:59 ` Vincent Lefevre
2011-09-20 14:51 ` Vincent Lefevre
2012-07-06 11:13 ` Vincent Lefevre
2012-07-06 20:32 ` Troels Nielsen
2012-07-06 22:51 ` Daniel Colascione
2012-07-07 15:08 ` Troels Nielsen
2014-09-22 13:06 ` Vincent Lefevre
2014-09-27 4:10 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-09 20:03 ` Glenn Morris [this message]
2014-10-12 2:40 ` bug#8705: Emacs 24.3 " Paul Eggert
2014-10-12 6:19 ` Paul Eggert
2014-10-14 18:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-14 18:44 ` Glenn Morris
2014-10-14 18:45 ` Glenn Morris
2014-10-14 18:52 ` Glenn Morris
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