From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: nipponpost@airmail.cc Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs,gmane.os.openbsd.misc,gmane.linux.kernel Subject: bug#38002: Please remove this joke - Informing of legal rights is not a threat - 35 year copyright recovery for non-works-for-hire Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2019 16:45:25 +0000 Message-ID: References: <20191102210600.60400.qmail@mail.muc.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="165790"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.3.6 Cc: mbork@mbork.pl, rms@gnu.org, misc@openbsd.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, 38002@debbugs.gnu.org, bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+nipponpost=airmail.cc@gnu.org, cpardo@imayhem.com To: Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 03 17:55:21 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iRJ9t-000h00-CH for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 03 Nov 2019 17:55:21 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54858 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iRJ9r-0001WF-J9 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 03 Nov 2019 11:55:19 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53041) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iRJ9f-0001QY-5M for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Nov 2019 11:55:11 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iRJ9d-0008Ji-7D for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Nov 2019 11:55:07 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:54413) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iRJ9Z-0008Iq-RE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Nov 2019 11:55:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iRJ9Z-00028n-Q4 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Nov 2019 11:55:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: nipponpost@airmail.cc Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2019 16:55:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 38002 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch fixed X-Debbugs-Original-Cc: Marcin Borkowski , rms@gnu.org, bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, misc@openbsd.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, 38002@debbugs.gnu.org, bug-gnu-emacs , cpardo@imayhem.com Original-Received: via spool by 38002-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B38002.15728000968213 (code B ref 38002); Sun, 03 Nov 2019 16:55:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 38002) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Nov 2019 16:54:56 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35001 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iRJ9U-00028O-1G for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Nov 2019 11:54:56 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.cock.li ([185.10.68.5]:46179 helo=cock.li) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iRJ0P-0001oi-PH for 38002@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Nov 2019 11:45:34 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=airmail.cc; s=mail; t=1572799525; bh=3Z8gMlv2pG6swWRWLDHqmnKJCBeDdUk6BjPWm26WKfI=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=FvwIQUfyRdjPOMPMsOaKeyZgYQ5fUTlc5ksg82kgYChASU54QUg8kjM+WiJMJwc8t djKe0OkOvFMb7B7qWFDD/fbkKaxmnZPiKSaA/G50nXAQu4j+Bni0pcZ+JgLRVnN/gl vE+Xw57qsVuFmQo2MPCjKVIR4p54Je4SIi12Oav5pa50IeV4+k2Fc3ktq68RDI32XI N6Sz2Z1D9lFmQEh/ygDpgO2nEmb66+HSQPq7xxNHaw+6FG7TCt+npmhob9meLF5rbq 2CT4gwLmWiqqvA3wYyDO83ry2mcvH8QtgVxx8OiIAiUKIafbKVFOkMEpCFsvJpeWZG 3+DI3iSpsoJQQ== In-Reply-To: <20191102210600.60400.qmail@mail.muc.de> X-Sender: nipponpost@airmail.cc X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 03 Nov 2019 11:54:54 -0500 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:170887 gmane.os.openbsd.misc:253881 gmane.linux.kernel:3271818 Archived-At: I'm a licensed attorney and have been studying copyright for years. I am not going to identify myself. Informing people of their legal rights is not a threat, and the FSF will lose any statutory revocation action in the US. And yes, I already know the legal arguments you are going to make (you will beg the courts to consider the charitable exception regarding the requirement for consideration when making a binding promise to donate, however here Congress chose to completely bypass and nullify contract-law principals (and exceptions) and write in a statutory right of recovery after 35 years (within a window of time) for copyrights, regardless of what the license contract or assignment said. You will also try to claim that the works were works for hire, you will fail on that as well) On 2019-11-02 21:06, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > In article you > wrote: >> I am going to find who actually created the joke, if at all I possibly >> can, and inform HIM about copyright reversion under section 203 of the >> Copyright Act. > >> Additionally, in the fullness of time, I will also inform your Estate >> about said feature of the Copyright Act, along with all others who >> contributed code to free-software I can find who are affected by this >> war against sexism. > >> I will inform the Estates and Persons of the damages they can claim if >> the notice of reversion is not complied with, I will also inform them >> about derivative works and how any replacement code my very-well be >> derivative. > > Whoever you are, your posts are offensive and threatening. > > Please be aware that the Free Software Foundation has some very good > lawyers on its staff, who know all about copyright. > > Why are you hiding your identity? What are you scared of? > > Please identify yourself.