From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#25818: 25.2; frame moved off display does not return (OS X) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2017 14:05:26 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: References: <58AEA232.4000708@gmx.at> <58B30634.1090904@gmx.at> <58B3DDBA.6060003@gmx.at> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1488319734 32090 195.159.176.226 (28 Feb 2017 22:08:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2017 22:08:54 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 25818@debbugs.gnu.org To: Anders Lindgren , "Charles A. Roelli" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 28 23:08:50 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cipwt-0007nC-VP for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 28 Feb 2017 23:08:48 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37287 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cipwz-0004Pa-Tt for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 28 Feb 2017 17:08:54 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53405) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cipuH-0001x5-JE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Feb 2017 17:06:07 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cipuE-0008T6-CP for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Feb 2017 17:06:05 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:34222) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cipuE-0008Sm-8V for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Feb 2017 17:06:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cipuE-0001Uk-1u for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Feb 2017 17:06:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2017 22:06:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25818 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 25818-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25818.14883195455698 (code B ref 25818); Tue, 28 Feb 2017 22:06:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 25818) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Feb 2017 22:05:45 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60654 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ciptw-0001Tp-Uq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 28 Feb 2017 17:05:45 -0500 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:50781) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ciptv-0001TJ-KL for 25818@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 28 Feb 2017 17:05:44 -0500 Original-Received: from userv0021.oracle.com (userv0021.oracle.com [156.151.31.71]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id v1SM5Sii020726 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 28 Feb 2017 22:05:29 GMT Original-Received: from userv0122.oracle.com (userv0122.oracle.com [156.151.31.75]) by userv0021.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id v1SM5Sbu005480 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 28 Feb 2017 22:05:28 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0011.oracle.com (abhmp0011.oracle.com [141.146.116.17]) by userv0122.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id v1SM5S20023299; Tue, 28 Feb 2017 22:05:28 GMT In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 12.0.6753.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: userv0021.oracle.com [156.151.31.71] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:129964 Archived-At: Excuse me for chiming in without really following this thread. I don't use OS X, for one thing, and I'm not following this particular bug. But if one of the questions is whether an Emacs user (or code) should _be able_ to position a frame off screen then I emphatically say yes, s?he should. I have code that lets you incrementally move a frame up/down/left/right, including wraparound or including the possibility of not wrapping but continuing till the frame is entirely off screen. I don't see anything wrong with _allowing_ someone to position a frame off screen. Why they might want to do that is up to them. If that question is not in fact being raised in this bug discussion, then please ignore this intrusion, and sorry for the noise.