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From: uzibalqa via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: Heime <heimeborgia@protonmail.com>, 65348@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#65348: INITIAL-INPUT in completing-read repeats same entry twice consecutively
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2023 08:40:12 +0000	[thread overview]
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On Friday, August 18th, 2023 at 6:32 PM, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:


> > Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2023 05:56:04 +0000
> > From: Heime heimeborgia@protonmail.com
> > Cc: 65348@debbugs.gnu.org
> > 
> > > The manual tells you what to do instead.
> > 
> > This used to be easy for beginners. Now it has became complicated.
> 
> 
> Using completing-read was never easy.
> 
> > Had hoped the plan for the future was to improve things for
> > beginners, now everything has started to get modified for use mostly
> > by experts.
> 
> 
> The Emacs development enhances the existing functionality, and that
> inevitably makes some situations more complex to handle. That is the
> price for added functionality, and no one has yet found a way of
> making software more flexible and powerful without also making it more
> complex.
> 
> > > > > Why do you need INITIAL?
> > > > 
> > > > I want the user to see a default without having him to get it with the bloody "M-n".
> > > 
> > > That's not how you show the default to the user. The way to show the
> > > default to the user is to include it in the prompt, like so:
> > > 
> > > Type your choice (default foo):
> > 
> > I do not want the user to type it, but for it to be displayed automatically.
> > And if theyy do not want the default, they can step to the next possibility
> > in COLLECTION.
> 
> 
> Then you will have to override the value of
> minibuffer-default-add-function with a function of your own.

You see how things have become even more complicated now.  How about 
providing the feature that there was ?   






  reply	other threads:[~2023-08-18  8:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-17  0:47 bug#65348: INITIAL-INPUT in completing-read repeats same entry twice consecutively Heime via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-08-17  5:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-17  6:05   ` Heime via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-08-17  7:20     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-17 10:27       ` Heime via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-08-17 10:45         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-18  0:35           ` Heime via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-08-18  1:47             ` Drew Adams
2023-08-18  3:49             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-18  5:13               ` Heime via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-08-18  5:36                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-18  5:56                   ` Heime via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-08-18  6:32                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-18  8:40                       ` uzibalqa via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors [this message]
2023-08-18 12:14                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-18 12:27                           ` Heime via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-08-18 12:30                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-18 12:55                               ` Heime via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-08-18 13:27                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-18 13:36                                   ` Heime via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-08-18 15:23                                     ` Drew Adams
2023-08-18 15:16                 ` Drew Adams
2023-08-18 15:43                   ` Heime via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-08-18 17:33                     ` Drew Adams
2023-08-18 19:12                       ` Heime via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-08-18 21:03                         ` Drew Adams
2023-08-19  1:55                           ` Heime via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-08-19  2:34                         ` Heime via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-08-19  4:14                           ` Drew Adams
2023-08-19  4:22                             ` Heime via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-08-19  4:46                               ` Drew Adams
2023-08-19  5:05                                 ` Heime via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-08-19  6:34                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-19 16:20                                     ` Drew Adams
2023-08-19 19:19                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-19 20:56                                         ` Drew Adams
2023-08-20 16:39                                           ` Juri Linkov
2023-08-21  0:23                                             ` Drew Adams
2023-08-21  4:34                                               ` Christopher Dimech
2023-08-20  5:42                                         ` Heime via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-08-20  6:12                                           ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-08-20  6:23                                             ` Heime via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-08-20  6:34                                             ` Christopher Dimech
2023-08-21  0:25                                               ` Drew Adams
2023-08-21  4:26                                                 ` bug#65348: RE: [External] : " Christopher Dimech
2023-08-21  5:23                                                   ` Drew Adams
2023-08-21  6:29                                                     ` Christopher Dimech
2023-08-21  7:21                                                     ` bug#65348: " Christopher Dimech
2023-08-21 11:40                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-21 12:07                                                         ` Christopher Dimech
2023-08-21 12:25                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-21 13:27                                                             ` Heime via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-08-21 16:08                                                         ` Drew Adams
2023-08-18 19:45                       ` Heime via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-08-18 21:07                         ` Drew Adams

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