From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#61325: 30.0.50; Jokes in GNUS manual Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2023 17:50:30 +0300 Message-ID: References: <87h6vkbgot.fsf@localhost> <87mt5aj626.fsf@localhost> <87cz65hkk1.fsf@yahoo.com> <87cz5kfza6.fsf@localhost> <871qlze3g2.fsf@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="22408"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/2.2.9+54 (af2080d) (2022-11-21) Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, Gregory Heytings , Richard Stallman , 61325@debbugs.gnu.org, stefankangas@gmail.com To: Ihor Radchenko Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 13 16:08:29 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pbjml-0005YW-Dl for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 13 Mar 2023 16:08:27 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pbjmO-0002CR-CC; Mon, 13 Mar 2023 11:08:04 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pbjmM-0002Bq-Tn for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Mar 2023 11:08:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pbjmM-0007XS-Lx for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Mar 2023 11:08:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pbjmM-0002Kq-Hy for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Mar 2023 11:08:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Jean Louis Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2023 15:08:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 61325 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 61325-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B61325.16787200758943 (code B ref 61325); Mon, 13 Mar 2023 15:08:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 61325) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Mar 2023 15:07:55 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35405 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pbjmE-0002KA-Um for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 13 Mar 2023 11:07:55 -0400 Original-Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:52453) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pbjmD-0002Jv-5d for 61325@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 13 Mar 2023 11:07:53 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:102.84.56.63]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.3,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 0000000000103ABD.00000000640F3C49.00004935; Mon, 13 Mar 2023 08:07:53 -0700 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <871qlze3g2.fsf@localhost> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:257909 Archived-At: * Ihor Radchenko [2023-03-08 17:12]: > My statement is based on a concrete person complaining about too many > inappropriate jokes. I also listed the specific jokes in question. How is possible to know if that person has no name? If that person need you as proxy to talk for them, maybe it is all in the end the joke to create a commotion, and finally laughs. How do we know that you are transmitting the emotion and feeling in same manner how it was intended? > The idea of asking general public has been rejected (see my earlier > message about running a poll). Po Lu argued that such a poll will > represent people overreacting to the jokes disproportionally (they > will tend to participate in the poll more). You have to step away from that computer and go into people, talk and make some fun. Come back. Or if not that, okay fine, though that sounds too robotic too me, and no fun. > So, I tried to fall back to the GNU policy. Which, IMHO should be > slightly clarified. The part about what "occasional joke" refers to. > We have. The previous https://emacssurvey.org/ generated over 1000 > replies. But see Po Lu's concern. 1000 replies on what? I cannot find anything related to jokes there. Your answer is not related. Get out of that room. -- Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns In support of Richard M. Stallman https://stallmansupport.org/