From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alan Mackenzie Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#56305: 29.0.50; 'yes-or-no-p' deselects minibuffer frame Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2022 12:41:23 +0000 Message-ID: References: <5d86d890-9a2e-e4d6-13fb-da03285ea003@gmx.at> <83k08l1964.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="14705"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: rudalics@gmx.at, 56305@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, acm@muc.de To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 10 14:42:11 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oAWGI-0003ei-BS for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 10 Jul 2022 14:42:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42758 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oAWGH-0000Ay-9t for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 10 Jul 2022 08:42:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45324) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oAWGA-000099-8U for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Jul 2022 08:42:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:42524) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oAWG9-0004S1-Vd for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Jul 2022 08:42:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oAWG9-0006uN-U0 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Jul 2022 08:42:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Alan Mackenzie Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2022 12:42:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 56305 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 56305-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B56305.165745689326519 (code B ref 56305); Sun, 10 Jul 2022 12:42:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 56305) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Jul 2022 12:41:33 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36421 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oAWFh-0006tf-5F for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 10 Jul 2022 08:41:33 -0400 Original-Received: from colin.muc.de ([193.149.48.1]:15817 helo=mail.muc.de) by debbugs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oAWFe-0006tS-TY for 56305@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 10 Jul 2022 08:41:31 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 69953 invoked by uid 3782); 10 Jul 2022 12:41:24 -0000 Original-Received: from acm.muc.de (p4fe15b15.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [79.225.91.21]) (using STARTTLS) by colin.muc.de (tmda-ofmipd) with ESMTP; Sun, 10 Jul 2022 14:41:23 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail 6149 invoked by uid 1000); 10 Jul 2022 12:41:23 -0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <83k08l1964.fsf@gnu.org> X-Submission-Agent: TMDA/1.3.x (Ph3nix) X-Primary-Address: acm@muc.de X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:236567 Archived-At: Hello, Eli. On Sun, Jul 10, 2022 at 14:47:31 +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2022 11:34:50 +0000 > > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, > > 56305@debbugs.gnu.org, acm@muc.de > > From: Alan Mackenzie > > Anyway, we'll have to decide soon what to do for Emacs 28.2. The > > first pretest is already out there. What we do needs to be simple > > and safe. The alternatives so far seem to be do nothing, apply the > > 53-line deletion from master (which Eli has already rejected) or > > apply my patch above (fixed to work with tty's). At the moment, I > > would favour the last of these. > It is hard for me to make a decision about that patch, since it isn't > clear what are its disadvantages. Martin seems to say that it doesn't > work well? Martin's not very happy about things, but I'm not sure what can be improved quickly. > So can you tell what problem it fixes .... In the bug scenario, after C-x C-c, the focus was not on the minibuffer frame. Now it is. > .... and what, if any, problems it causes? I'm not really aware of any specific problems, but I think Martin might be. I see the main problem with the patch is it hasn't been tested on anything but GNU/Linux and X. In particular, it hasn't been tested on a Windows machine or a Mac, at least that I'm aware of. > Or maybe we should wait for at least the master to have a complete > fix, and decide then? You mean, postpone the next Emacs 28 pretest until we've got a better understanding? -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).