From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alan Third Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#54961: 28.1; info-display-manual completions issues Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2022 18:01:16 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87wnfpccuu.fsf@gnus.org> <08B1B8C9-F276-4B4A-BC41-8719124A5C9A@gmail.com> <868rs2tm4w.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <8BC9ABD6-CC64-492B-8DF9-946F5348D52B@gmail.com> <83wnflvdms.fsf@gnu.org> <6D90FA16-36D2-4C4D-9872-AEB9BA858E8E@gmail.com> <835yn5ui65.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="5295"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Howard Melman , larsi@gnus.org, 54961@debbugs.gnu.org, juri@linkov.net To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 20 19:02:15 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nhDiX-00016A-MY for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=joAzo8C9Pc7xBd7sHWbMAjrRiD8yf0SxK7V+1/jSnZoD8DaoN8HnpgdsmRF4U28jB FRIYNQiMT+17CMYMZvQDLUEkJo31p00F30CdKgQIqf05O3eH36ThB3ifAtgrZht46O Tp/uvoJNkKcrmfiFjol7vJmnLeH8eQ8W3a7CfqS6ZmtyjOhZNwwiYHHMnzn6YtDWty OxyRVdncFBva/qn6jJ+Qi7aHIcjKbFpbtFmaCaRqlEpKxjgco65X9xwdH2UmCW3lwF SBsFDGvwbyOmXzMna2kV7UpZ0OvLMbtGRJDFPbvyNkjG4f/XsuKK5qOvTa0pvwZLi4 5FViGHI07XUGw== Original-Received: from alan by faroe.holly.idiocy.org with local (Exim 4.95) (envelope-from ) id 1nhDhc-000cp9-MP; Wed, 20 Apr 2022 18:01:16 +0100 Mail-Followup-To: Alan Third , Eli Zaretskii , Howard Melman , juri@linkov.net, larsi@gnus.org, 54961@debbugs.gnu.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <835yn5ui65.fsf@gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:230314 Archived-At: On Tue, Apr 19, 2022 at 07:55:30PM +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > on emacs -Q (on mac) > > > > Info-default-directory-list > > ("/Applications/GnuEmacs.app/Contents/Resources/info/" "/usr/local/share/info/" "/usr/share/info/") > > > > after running C-h i, Info-directory-list is the same > > ("/Applications/GnuEmacs.app/Contents/Resources/info/" "/usr/local/share/info/" "/usr/share/info/") > But then info-initialize, which is supposed to implement the above, > deviates from that behavior on macOS, with this commentary: > > ;; For a self-contained (ie relocatable) NS build, AFAICS we > ;; always want the included info directory to be at the head of > ;; the search path, unless it's already in INFOPATH somewhere. > ;; It's at the head of Info-default-directory-list, > ;; but there's no way to get it at the head of Info-directory-list > ;; except by doing it here. > > I cannot say I understand this reasoning, and neither do I understand > whether this explains what you see in your case (because I don't know > what is meant by "self-contained i.e. relocatable NS build". I'm not sure what the reasoning is either. The self-contained build is where all Emacs's files are installed in a special directory, in this case "/Applications/GnuEmacs.app" which can be placed anywhere on the filesystem and run from the GUI. My uneducated guess is that it's possible to have a "UNIX" style install already on a machine, which might be in /usr and then want to run the self-contained version and not pick up the files in /usr before the self-contained version's files. I've no idea if that's plausible. It looks like Glen's included a couple of links about why this was done in change eb7afdaddc286b57253cf0cd643b2ea594fb130c. -- Alan Third