From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#60741: 29.0.60; 'M-c' shadowed in the minibuffer Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2023 08:34:05 +0300 Message-ID: References: <86zgaosv7b.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <86edrr3egn.fsf@mail.linkov.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="26655"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/2.2.9+54 (af2080d) (2022-11-21) Cc: "60741@debbugs.gnu.org" <60741@debbugs.gnu.org>, Juri Linkov To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 19 07:12:21 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pIO9t-0006fQ-L9 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 07:12:21 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pIO9g-0005tM-2d; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 01:12:08 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pIO9c-0005rW-AU for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 01:12:04 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pIO9a-0001PD-9N for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 01:12:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pIO9Z-0004qh-Uu for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 01:12:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Jean Louis Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2023 06:12:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 60741 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 60741-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B60741.167410869918612 (code B ref 60741); Thu, 19 Jan 2023 06:12:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 60741) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Jan 2023 06:11:39 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42354 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pIO9D-0004q8-9J for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 01:11:39 -0500 Original-Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:42151) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pIO9B-0004nk-5C for 60741@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 01:11:38 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:197.239.7.243]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.3,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 000000000010394D.0000000063C8DF1A.00007B47; Wed, 18 Jan 2023 23:11:38 -0700 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:253675 Archived-At: * Drew Adams [2023-01-18 21:48]: > > > 'M-c' is bound globally to 'capitalize-word', but this keybinding > > > is shadowed in the minibuffer, thus making it impossible to > > > capitalize words. > > Is this something new in Emacs 29? I don't see it > in previous versions (I don't have 29). What is > `M-c' bound to now in the minibuffer keymaps? > > Why should we lose this longstanding, useful key > binding? Users should be able to use most normal > editing keys in the minibuffer - it's first and > foremost an editing buffer. I use that key all the time in the minibuffer, and can't without it. I give you the practical example: - PDF book in Dired is called: 21252030 agenda for sustainable development web.pdf - I click and wish to index the book, so initial prompt for the title will be: 21252030 agenda for sustainable development web.pdf - I delete 21252030 with M-d and use M-c to get following: Agenda For Sustainable Development - then I press RET to record information Without M-c in minibuffer I would need to re-assign key binding. But it works, I did not know something changed. -- Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns In support of Richard M. Stallman https://stallmansupport.org/