From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#61325: 30.0.50; Jokes in GNUS manual Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2023 09:56:10 +0300 Message-ID: References: <87ttzy7pg1.fsf@localhost> <87wn4sb7el.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="15625"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/2.2.9+54 (af2080d) (2022-11-21) Cc: Ihor Radchenko , 61325@debbugs.gnu.org To: Visuwesh Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Feb 12 07:57:35 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pR6Io-0003nG-Ne for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 12 Feb 2023 07:57:34 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pR6IL-0006Uu-VH; Sun, 12 Feb 2023 01:57:05 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pR6IJ-0006Tk-GD for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Feb 2023 01:57:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pR6IJ-0007pc-76 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Feb 2023 01:57:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pR6IJ-0005HD-2X for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Feb 2023 01:57:03 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Jean Louis Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2023 06:57:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 61325 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 61325-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B61325.167618500520242 (code B ref 61325); Sun, 12 Feb 2023 06:57:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at 61325) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Feb 2023 06:56:45 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43916 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pR6I1-0005GO-Co for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 12 Feb 2023 01:56:45 -0500 Original-Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:38711) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pR6Hz-0005Fk-3u for 61325@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 12 Feb 2023 01:56:43 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:102.87.28.92]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.3,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 0000000000103956.0000000063E88DAE.00007BB9; Sat, 11 Feb 2023 23:56:46 -0700 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87wn4sb7el.fsf@gmail.com> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:255382 Archived-At: * Visuwesh [2023-02-08 16:44]: > > 3.15 Exiting Gnus has > > > > Note: > > > > Miss Lisa Cannifax, while sitting in English class, felt her feet > > go numbly heavy and herself fall into a hazy trance as the boy > > sitting behind her drew repeated lines with his pencil across the > > back of her plastic chair. > > > > I am not sure if it is a joke. I only feel confused about what > > information this note is trying to convey. Also, at least one other user > > find this section insulting. > > I am not sure what this person finds insulting. I am not sure if you > referred to this when you wrote "female bullying" in another thread, but > what I visualise when I read this is much more innocent and does not > have anything offensive. OTOH, I do agree this paragraph sticks out and > seemingly serves no useful info. Art is perceived by audience. Every user, every reader, can add to the author's idea. It may be different to different users. I get the feeling of what happens when "Exiting Gnus". What is the stage when you exit the world of reading newsgroups? How does it feel? User is in one world "Gnus" or "news", reading newsgroups, it is specific world where mind is occupied and does not focus on the environment. How does it feel when user get out of that news environment? It is similar as waking up from a dream. It is similar as opening eyes and seeing something totally different! It shows the feeling of author contrast of the environment and feeling of a user as to how it feels when you exit Gnus. Maybe it is Miss Lisa Cannifax in English class, or plethora of other variations. It is awakening. And Miss Lisa Cannifax helps reader awake to. There is message from author right there. I maybe see it, maybe not. But I see what I feel. -- Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns In support of Richard M. Stallman https://stallmansupport.org/