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charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a new install of Windows 10, every 10 seconds the bell rings in Emacs, a= nd the message " is undefined" is printed. It only happens when foc= us is on the Emacs window. This makes Emacs completely unusable. This is not a new thing - I have seen it before on Vista, Win 7, and anothe= r Windows 10 system. I've never been able to figure out what is going on - = instead I've just installed XEmacs and used that. However, I just built a new system and figured I'd give it another try - th= e problem is still there. The only other reference to this problem that I c= ould find is at: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/47069309/on-launch-emacs-makes-ding-sou= nd-and-displays-noname-is-undefined-message That posting seems to associate this issue with DishAnywhere. Well, I'm not using DishAnywhere, but I am using the SlingPlayer app, which= is an ancestor of the DishAnywhere app. It just so happens that I had Slin= gPlayer running at the time I brought Emacs up (I run SlingPlayer pretty mu= ch all the time on my system.). When it is running, and I have focus on the= Emacs window, the problem occurs. As far as I can tell, I see no problems when running SlingPlayer with any o= ther applications, including XEmacs. Only Gnu Emacs. There appears to be so= me resource that both are using which causes this. I was thinking - is it p= ossible this has something to do with the emacs server/client stuff? If so,= is there a potential workaround I could try? I really don't know how to ch= ase this down more... Thanks for taking a look at this. Best regards, Rick McCarty rjmccarty@live.com In GNU Emacs 26.2 (build 1, x86_64-w64-mingw32) of 2019-04-13 built on CIRROCUMULUS Repository revision: fd1b34bfba8f3f6298df47c8e10b61530426f749 Windowing system distributor 'Microsoft Corp.', version 10.0.17763 Recent messages: For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. is undefined [20 times] Configured using: 'configure --without-dbus --host=3Dx86_64-w64-mingw32 --without-compress-install 'CFLAGS=3D-O2 -static -g3'' Configured features: XPM JPEG TIFF GIF PNG RSVG SOUND NOTIFY ACL GNUTLS LIBXML2 ZLIB TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS THREADS LCMS2 Important settings: value of $LANG: ENU locale-coding-system: cp1252 Major mode: Fundamental Minor modes in effect: tooltip-mode: t global-eldoc-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t buffer-read-only: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Load-path shadows: None found. Features: (shadow sort mail-extr emacsbug message rmc puny seq byte-opt gv bytecomp byte-compile cconv cl-loaddefs cl-lib dired dired-loaddefs format-spec rfc822 mml easymenu mml-sec password-cache epa derived epg epg-config gnus-util rmail rmail-loaddefs mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231 mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader sendmail rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums mm-util mail-prsvr mail-utils elec-pair time-date mule-util tooltip eldoc electric uniquify ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type mwheel dos-w32 ls-lisp disp-table term/w32-win w32-win w32-vars term/common-win tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list replace newcomment text-mode elisp-mode lisp-mode prog-mode register page menu-bar rfn-eshadow isearch timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core term/tty-colors frame cl-generic cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese eucjp-ms cp51932 hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese composite charscript charprop case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev obarray minibuffer cl-preloaded nadvice loaddefs button faces cus-face macroexp files text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote threads w32notify w32 lcms2 multi-tty make-network-process emacs) Memory information: ((conses 16 97843 10445) (symbols 48 20208 1) (miscs 40 79 119) (strings 32 29756 1492) (string-bytes 1 770394) (vectors 16 14088) (vector-slots 8 496979 11598) (floats 8 55 288) (intervals 56 294 34) (buffers 992 13)) --_000_SN6PR05MB47849681806BAF8EAC779886C8140SN6PR05MB4784namp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a new install of Windows 10, every 10 seconds the bell rings in Ema= cs, and the message "<noname> is undefined" is printed. It = only happens when focus is on the Emacs window. This makes Emacs completely= unusable.

This is not a new thing - I have seen it before on Vista, Win 7, and a= nother Windows 10 system. I've never been able to figure out what is going = on - instead I've just installed XEmacs and used that.

However, I just built a new system and figured I'd give it another try= - the problem is still there. The only other reference to this problem tha= t I could find is at:


That posting seems to associate this issue with DishAnywhere.

Well, I'm not using DishAnywhere, but I am using the SlingPlayer app, = which is an ancestor of the DishAnywhere app. It just so happens that I had= SlingPlayer running at the time I brought Emacs up (I run SlingPlayer pretty much all the time on my system.). When = it is running, and I have focus on the Emacs window, the problem occurs.&nb= sp;

As far as I can tell, I see no problems when running SlingPlayer with = any other applications, including XEmacs. Only Gnu Emacs. There appears to = be some resource that both are using which causes this. I was thinking - is= it possible this has something to do with the emacs server/client stuff? If so, is there a potential work= around I could try? I really don't know how to chase this down more...

Thanks for taking a look at this.

Best regards,

Rick McCarty
rjmccarty@live.com

In GNU Emacs 26.2 (build 1, x86_64-w64-mingw32)
 of 2019-04-13 built on CIRROCUMULUS
Repository revision: fd1b34bfba8f3f6298df47c8e10b61530426f749
Windowing system distributor 'Microsoft Corp.', version 10.0.17763
Recent messages:
For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a.
<noname> is undefined [20 times]

Configured using:
 'configure --without-dbus --host=3Dx86_64-w64-mingw32
 --without-compress-install 'CFLAGS=3D-O2 -static -g3''

Configured features:
XPM JPEG TIFF GIF PNG RSVG SOUND NOTIFY ACL GNUTLS LIBXML2 ZLIB
TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS THREADS LCMS2

Important settings:
  value of $LANG: ENU
  locale-coding-system: cp1252

Major mode: Fundamental

Minor modes in effect:
  tooltip-mode: t
  global-eldoc-mode: t
  electric-indent-mode: t
  mouse-wheel-mode: t
  tool-bar-mode: t
  menu-bar-mode: t
  file-name-shadow-mode: t
  global-font-lock-mode: t
  blink-cursor-mode: t
  auto-composition-mode: t
  auto-encryption-mode: t
  auto-compression-mode: t
  buffer-read-only: t
  line-number-mode: t
  transient-mark-mode: t

Load-path shadows:
None found.

Features:
(shadow sort mail-extr emacsbug message rmc puny seq byte-opt gv
bytecomp byte-compile cconv cl-loaddefs cl-lib dired dired-loaddefs
format-spec rfc822 mml easymenu mml-sec password-cache epa derived epg=
epg-config gnus-util rmail rmail-loaddefs mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encod= e
mail-parse rfc2231 mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader sendmail rfc2047
rfc2045 ietf-drums mm-util mail-prsvr mail-utils elec-pair time-date
mule-util tooltip eldoc electric uniquify ediff-hook vc-hooks
lisp-float-type mwheel dos-w32 ls-lisp disp-table term/w32-win w32-win=
w32-vars term/common-win tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe<= br>
tabulated-list replace newcomment text-mode elisp-mode lisp-mode
prog-mode register page menu-bar rfn-eshadow isearch timer select
scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core
term/tty-colors frame cl-generic cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang
vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese eucjp-ms cp51932<= br>
hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic
chinese composite charscript charprop case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hoo= k
help simple abbrev obarray minibuffer cl-preloaded nadvice loaddefs
button faces cus-face macroexp files text-properties overlay sha1 md5<= br>
base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readab= le
backquote threads w32notify w32 lcms2 multi-tty make-network-process
emacs)

Memory information:
((conses 16 97843 10445)
 (symbols 48 20208 1)
 (miscs 40 79 119)
 (strings 32 29756 1492)
 (string-bytes 1 770394)
 (vectors 16 14088)
 (vector-slots 8 496979 11598)
 (floats 8 55 288)
 (intervals 56 294 34)
 (buffers 992 13))

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