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charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, Norton answered that they corrected runemacs.exe, so i submitted th= e 6 other files that had the same problem, etags.exe emacsclient.exe addpm.= exe ctags.exe ebrowse.exe emacsclientw.exe, now i just have to track the on= es that got removed rather than quarantined... /jeff from Norton: falsepositives@symantec.com In relation to submission 91222. Upon further analysis and investigation we have verified your submission an= d, as such, the detection(s) for the following file(s) will be removed from= our products: File name: runemacs.exe MD5: 7A42917614CED759A404B3ABE569BFB9 SHA256: D51EBF9AB1465666C7FBC30BFDA93610879761EE0C5E89DF928853FD6B635C5= B Note: Whitelisting may take up to 24 hours to take effect via Live Upda= te ________________________________ From: Jeffrey Sondeen Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 1:19:27 PM To: Noam Postavsky Cc: 31572@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#31572: 26.0.91; emacs-26.1 RC1 fails norton virus check Hi Noam, thanks for the link, i used it to upload some of the emacs program= s, reporting them as being falsely anti-virus detected. I also submitted s= ome of the exe's to virustotal.com, as mentioned in some other Norton commu= nity message, and none of the emacs exe's triggered any other anti-virus de= tections. It's still a hassle, though, since, while many of the emacs programs are Qu= arantined by the Norton anti-virus (and can be easily restored), some other= s are Removed, for which there's no undo operation (all with the falsely de= tected WS.Reputation.1 message). thanks, /jeff ________________________________ From: Noam Postavsky Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 11:41:51 AM To: Jeffrey Sondeen Cc: 31572@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#31572: 26.0.91; emacs-26.1 RC1 fails norton virus check On 23 May 2018 at 14:03, Jeff Sondeen wrote: > > Hi all, i've been running Emacs version 26.091, but just downloaded > emacs-26.1-rc1-x86_64.zip, but Norton Security has quarantined several > *.exe's (runemacs.exe, etags.exe, etc) under > emacs-26.1-rc1-x86_64/bin, complaining about a virus called > "WS.Reputaton.1 Insight Network Threat" as per the attached pix (I > didn't have this problem with 26.091) According to https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-3A__communi= ty.norton.com_en_forums_clarification-2Dwsreputation1-2Ddetection&d=3DDwIFa= Q&c=3DclK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=3Dyx7WeBO4vNFR2eleLG4z-= w&m=3Do9Wkgj_Y9o3uwCY0WRrKyP4cX03_nVur3WsvHwtHGfY&s=3DqZ0lBbq4-JjwBbDalE5G8= WHRkRB8NKGNShuCa4iCQ44&e=3D, this warning doesn't represent a virus finding specifically: WS.Reputation.1 is a detection for files that have a low reputation score based on analyzing data from Symantec=92s community of users and therefore are likely to be security risks.[...] The reputation-based system uses "the wisdom of crowds"[...] --_000_SN1PR07MB4062BB08AC1187361F5B947FBD6B0SN1PR07MB4062namp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi all, Norton answered that they corrected runemacs.exe, s= o i submitted the 6 other files that had the same problem, etags= .exe emacsclient.exe addpm.exe ctags.exe ebrowse.exe emacsclientw.exe, now i just have to track the ones that got removed rathe= r than quarantined...


/jeff


from Norton:


falsepositives@symantec.com

In relation to submission 91222.

Upon further analysis and investigation we have verified yo= ur submission and, as such, the detection(s) for the following file(s) will= be removed from our products:

    File name: runemacs.exe
    MD5: 7A42917614CED759A404B3ABE569BFB9
    SHA256: D51EBF9AB1465666C7FBC30BFDA93610879761EE0C5E89DF= 928853FD6B635C5B
    Note: Whitelisting may take up to 24 hours to take effec= t via Live Update


From: Jeffrey Sondeen
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 1:19:27 PM
To: Noam Postavsky
Cc: 31572@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#31572: 26.0.91; emacs-26.1 RC1 fails norton virus c= heck
 

Hi Noam, thanks for the link, i = used it to upload some of the emacs programs, reporting them as being false= ly anti-virus detected.  I also submitted some of the exe's to virustotal.com, as mentioned in some other Norton community me= ssage, and none of the emacs exe's triggered any other anti-virus detection= s.


It's still a hassle, though, sin= ce, while many of the emacs programs are Quarantined by the Norton anti-vir= us (and can be easily restored), some others are Removed, for which th= ere's no undo operation (all with the falsely detected WS.Reputation.1 message).


thanks,

/jeff


From: Noam Postavsky <= npostavs@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 11:41:51 AM
To: Jeffrey Sondeen
Cc: 31572@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#31572: 26.0.91; emacs-26.1 RC1 fails norton virus c= heck
 
On 23 May 2018 at 14:03, Jeff Sondeen <sondee= n@usc.edu> wrote:
>
> Hi all, i've been running Emacs version 26.091, but just downloaded > emacs-26.1-rc1-x86_64.zip, but Norton Security has quarantined several=
> *.exe's (runemacs.exe, etags.exe, etc) under
> emacs-26.1-rc1-x86_64/bin, complaining about a virus called
> "WS.Reputaton.1 Insight Network Threat" as per the attached = pix (I
> didn't have this problem with 26.091)

According to https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-3A__community.norton.com= _en_forums_clarification-2Dwsreputation1-2Ddetection&d=3DDwIFaQ&c= =3DclK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=3Dyx7WeBO4vNFR2eleLG4z= -w&m=3Do9Wkgj_Y9o3uwCY0WRrKyP4cX03_nVur3WsvHwtHGfY&s=3DqZ0lBbq4-Jjw= BbDalE5G8WHRkRB8NKGNShuCa4iCQ44&e=3D,
this warning doesn't represent a virus finding specifically:

    WS.Reputation.1 is a detection for files that have a low=
    reputation score based on analyzing data from Symantec= =92s community
    of users and therefore are likely to be security risks.[= ...]

    The reputation-based system uses "the wisdom of cro= wds"[...]
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