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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@web.de>,
	Thierry Volpiatto <thievol@posteo.net>
Cc: "peter.mao@gmail.com" <peter.mao@gmail.com>,
	Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
	"63676@debbugs.gnu.org" <63676@debbugs.gnu.org>
Subject: bug#63676: cancelling editable dired causes UI problems with dired
Date: Sun, 28 May 2023 16:04:55 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <SJ0PR10MB5488F158F1C89057D9B6BAC9F3459@SJ0PR10MB5488.namprd10.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87mt1p59s7.fsf@web.de>

> > You could avoid such problem by creating a dired buffer with _only_ the
> > files you want to modify (helm allows this), then switch to wdired-mode
> > and do your modifications.
> > Probably implementing this in dired (i.e. open a new dired buffer with
> > only marked files) would be a good addition.
> 
> Thanks for mentioning this.  Yes, we definitely want something like
> this.  I was experimenting with such "helper" dired buffers myself
> (inspired by Icicles and Helm among others).
> 
> It's surprisingly hard to integrate such buffers into the dired concept,
> though: you can't advertise them (else they would be displayed when you
> "open the respective directory").  If you don't advertise them, file
> changes in other buffers (like renamings) are not propagated into these
> additional buffers.  Of course it must also work into the other
> direction.  Implementing this feature in a proper manner is not as easy
> as it seems I think (you don't accidently want to take the
> opportunity?).
> 
> OTOH, performing such more complex renaming operations should be
> supported as conveniently as possible in "standard" dired buffers.

(Caveat: I haven't followed this thread.)

With Dired+ you can create a Dired buffer for any
arbitrary list of files & dirs, even interactively,
in several ways.  Such a buffer isn't connected
with any particular directory listings (whether by
`ls' or ls-lisp).

E.g., commands `diredp-marked(-other-window)' do
it for the marked files & dirs in a Dired buffer.
(`C-M-*' is bound to `diredp-marked-other-window'.)

You can then use WDired on such buffer, to make any
changes you like.

Dired+ hasn't tried to fix any WDired problems, so
some WDired problems that you pointed to might
still be problematic with Dired+; dunno.  I'm not
an expert on WDired, and I haven't tried to look
into use cases etc.  But for the case you describe
it seems to work OK (superficial testing).


https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/download/dired%2b.el





  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-05-28 16:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-24  4:51 bug#63676: cancelling editable dired causes UI problems with dired Peter Mao
2023-05-24 11:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-24 12:09   ` Stephen Berman
2023-05-25  1:14   ` Peter Mao
2023-05-26  9:25     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-26 23:51   ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-05-27  0:55   ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-05-27  2:39     ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-05-27  6:26       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-27  6:24     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-28  1:36       ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-05-28  4:09         ` Thierry Volpiatto
2023-05-28  5:01           ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-05-28  5:08             ` Thierry Volpiatto
2023-05-28 16:04             ` Drew Adams [this message]
2023-05-28 16:21               ` Thierry Volpiatto
2023-05-28 19:17                 ` Drew Adams
2023-05-29  3:43                   ` Thierry Volpiatto
2023-05-29  5:16                     ` Drew Adams
2023-05-29  9:43                       ` Thierry Volpiatto
2023-05-29 17:11                         ` Drew Adams
2023-05-28 16:05           ` Drew Adams
2023-05-28  3:39       ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-05-28  6:43         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-29  1:35           ` Michael Heerdegen

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