From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: "64656@debbugs.gnu.org" <64656@debbugs.gnu.org>,
Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Subject: bug#64656: 29.0.91; Doc of minibuffer histories and completing-read - automatic addition of completions to DEFAULT list
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2023 18:14:12 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <SJ0PR10MB5488ED1F15F50CD3C666963AF3B3A@SJ0PR10MB5488.namprd10.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86il657qva.fsf@mail.linkov.net>
> > The problem reported by this bug report is that the order is random by
> > `C-h v M-n M-n' because it uses obarray.
No. That is NOT the problem reported. The problem
reported is:
1. Initial completions are added to `M-n' automatically,
instead of just by a user adding them explicitly to
DEFAULTS.
2. Given that BUG, _IF_ it won't be fixed, then the doc
should at least make users aware of it and mention
how to work around it.
Fixing #1 is preferable. Fixing #2 is minimal damage
control, IF you won't fix #1.
> > There is no such problem for
> > `C-x C-f M-n M-n' because the list of default values is truncated
> > explicitly in `read-file-name-default' by
> >
> > (minibuffer-with-setup-hook
> > (lambda ()
> > (setq-local minibuffer-default-add-function
> > ...
> >
> > So maybe to use the same to truncate the list of default values
> > for `C-h f', `C-h v', `C-h o'?
>
> But alas, this won't work for e.g. `C-h w', `C-h S',
> and other obarray completions.
>
> So it's a lose-lose situation.
The loss is the introduction of automatically cramming
the completion domain ("initial completions") onto the
`M-n' queue.
Just let programmers themselves control what goes into
`M-n', using DEFAULTS. IF anyone really wants to add
the completion domain to `M-n' it's trivial to do that,
by adding it to DEFAULTS. AFAIK, no one had ever done
that, and no one requested the misfeature of adding the
domain to `M-n' automatically.
We should admit the mistake of introducing this forced
polluting of `M-n' and revert that misfeature. Give
users back complete control of `M-n' through DEFAULTS -
that's what DEFAULTS is for, and its 100% sufficient
and flexible for doing the job.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-11-13 18:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-07-15 23:35 bug#64656: 29.0.91; Doc of minibuffer histories and completing-read - automatic addition of completions to DEFAULT list Drew Adams
2023-07-16 5:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-16 14:34 ` Drew Adams
2023-07-16 14:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-18 20:27 ` Drew Adams
2023-07-19 6:35 ` Juri Linkov
2023-07-19 17:23 ` Drew Adams
2023-10-20 6:47 ` Juri Linkov
2023-10-20 16:48 ` Drew Adams
2023-10-29 18:29 ` Juri Linkov
2023-10-29 22:15 ` Drew Adams
2023-10-30 7:44 ` Juri Linkov
2023-11-13 18:14 ` Drew Adams
2023-11-14 5:57 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2023-11-14 7:28 ` Juri Linkov
2023-11-05 18:11 ` Juri Linkov
2023-11-06 7:28 ` Juri Linkov
2023-11-09 16:34 ` Juri Linkov
2023-11-09 16:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-09 17:03 ` Juri Linkov
2023-11-09 19:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-10 7:45 ` Juri Linkov
2023-11-10 8:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-12 8:13 ` Juri Linkov
2023-11-13 17:17 ` Juri Linkov
2023-11-13 18:14 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2023-11-14 7:30 ` Juri Linkov
2023-11-15 17:52 ` Juri Linkov
2023-11-10 19:51 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-07-20 6:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-20 16:45 ` Drew Adams
2023-07-22 8:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-16 13:40 ` Drew Adams
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