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Bind these for yourself, if you like. There's no reason to add them as default key bindings. > A lot of mentions on the Internet say Emacs's drawback is the need to > customize it because the defaults are quirky from a different time > before keyboard commoditification. Yes, well, binding C-x up/down by default, as you suggest, just adds two more quirky defaults. Quirky and convenient are in the eyes of the beholder. Emacs lets you _easily_ get whatever key bindings you like. Circulez. Il n'y a rien a voir. > > we should not give this command a key binding > > at all, not by default. There's no need, since > > you can easily do it for you ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > without changing any default bindings. >=20 > Repeating several C-u -1 C-x o is suboptimal for me. "For me." That's the point. What's optimal for user X isn't what user Y wants. Fortunately, both user X and user Y can get what they want, _trivially_. Neither X nor Y need to have their preferences be imposed on others as default bindings. "Tell Emacs" what You want, for Yourself, and your wish is Emacs's command. Immediate, simple; done.