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I seriously doubt that. >=20 > I see lots of places alone in the Emacs sources that rely on the > behavior. Maybe we mean different things by the bugged behavior? Do you see lots of places where the Emacs sources use "\,"? >=20 > > Assuming the bug isn't going to be fixed, I'd propose we just describe > > the problem in a comment. >=20 > Where should this comment be located? As part of the comment you pointed to, which tries to describe how the code works/behaves?