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Do what you want. >=20 > That's not the issue at hand, because the time it takes to decide > whether a menu item should be :enable'd is as long as the time it > takes to decide whether it should be :visible. That time _is_ the > issue. Of course it takes the same amount of time - for the same test. That's not the issue at hand. Please read the rest of what I wrote. Martin said you shouldn't show a menu item unless it tests OK (in his case with a strict test that takes too long, but that's beside the point about :enable/:visible). The text you quote responds to his statement that an item shouldn't be shown if a test fails. I said there's no such rule; it's a design choice whether to show a particular item as disabled or to not show it at all. We have :enable, and not only :visible, for a reason. Again, do what you want. I've done what I think is helpful, in my code. And I've let you know about that experience. You're welcome.