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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se>,
	Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: "8951@debbugs.gnu.org" <8951@debbugs.gnu.org>
Subject: bug#8951: [External] : Re: bug#8951: 24.0.50; [PATCH] enhancement request: buttonize key names
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2021 21:07:53 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <SJ0PR10MB548895C642A523630CB8E97BF3829@SJ0PR10MB5488.namprd10.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADwFkm=FmtdWeZsUh9Cv9M5c909ntafsR3Temp3uwf_qGqsoVA@mail.gmail.com>

> >> What is the feature?  Let users click a key description (i.e., a
> >> key name, such as `C-f') in a buffer such as *Help* to see the
> >> associated help.  This applies to key descriptions derived from
> >> \[...] doc patterns (only).
> 
> The attached patch adds a new option `help-mode--add-function-link'
> that when non-nil makes `substitute-command-keys' add a link to the
> `describe-function' for the bound command when inserting keys.
> 
> I have reconsidered my previously held opinion that this should be off
> by default.  From using this patch, I have come to the conclusion that
> this position is wrong, as this is in fact highly useful in places such
> as `M-x ibuffer RET C-h m' and on many other help screen besides.  The
> only adverse effect of enabling it, furthermore, is that you might have
> to hit TAB a couple of times more on some help screens.  So I think
> having it on by default is very much a good thing.

Glad you decided this is worthwhile, after all.

You seem to have ignored this, from https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=8951#17:

 I gave this reason to make it optional:

 \\[], \\<>, \\{} are about mapping command names to
 corresponding key descriptions - nothing more.  That
 in itself does not say anything about help buffers
 and interactivity (clicking, RET).  The function is
 just a string transducer.

 The common use case for that is of course doc.  And
 the common use case for the doc use case is a help buffer.

 But a string of doc is more general than a help buffer,
 both in terms of string vs buffer and in terms of the
 need for button text properties (interactivity).  There
 could be applications of this function to produce a
 readable string that do not involve a button-clicking
 interactive context.

Instead of making the choice of whether to fontify/link
key descriptions (1) depend only on a user option
(dynamically scoped variable) and (2) hard-coupling it
to use of the result in a *Help* buffer, I argued for
(1) adding an optional arg to `substitute-command-keys'
(to make the choice), and (2) separating creation of the
resulting fontified/ linkified key description from its
use in *Help* output.

I think my approach is preferable.  I suggest it still.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-10-24 21:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-27 19:13 bug#44909: Hyperlinks gone for first story of two-storied *Help* buffers 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson
2020-11-28  7:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-28  7:56   ` Stefan Kangas
2011-06-28 16:38     ` bug#8951: 24.0.50; [PATCH] enhancement request: buttonize key names Drew Adams
2011-07-04 20:28       ` Stefan Monnier
2011-07-04 21:08         ` Drew Adams
2011-07-06 18:49           ` Stefan Monnier
2011-07-06 19:55             ` Drew Adams
2011-07-08 19:07               ` Stefan Monnier
2011-07-08 19:20                 ` Drew Adams
2019-06-27 16:35                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-23  0:46         ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-24 13:36           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-24 13:54             ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-24 14:15               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-24 14:56                 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-24 21:07           ` Drew Adams [this message]
2021-10-24 21:37             ` bug#8951: [External] : " Stefan Kangas
2021-10-24 22:05               ` Drew Adams
2021-10-24 22:24                 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-24 22:47                   ` Drew Adams
2021-10-24 23:15                     ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-25  1:32                       ` Drew Adams
2021-10-25  2:37                         ` Stefan Kangas
2020-11-28 20:45       ` bug#8951: bug#44909: Hyperlinks gone for first story of two-storied *Help* buffers 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson
2020-11-29 10:25     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen

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