From: Drew Adams via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: "71345@debbugs.gnu.org" <71345@debbugs.gnu.org>,
JD Smith <jdtsmith@gmail.com>
Subject: bug#71345: Feature: unleash font-lock's secret weapon; handle Qfontified = non-nil
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2024 17:24:44 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <SJ0PR10MB5488870CE7ECAD1A5A8B35E0F3F92@SJ0PR10MB5488.namprd10.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwva5jzjpeu.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
> > The solution to this dilemma is well known: Lisp
> > programs that want to control faces without
> > turning off font-lock mode should set
> > font-lock-face property, instead of the face
> > property. Why do you need to find another solution?
>
> Another solution to that dilemma was to use overlays. 🙂
Apologies, as I'm not really following this
thread. My comment might be irrelevant to
the actual issue; if so, sorry.
___
The question of how to prevent some ad hoc
highlighting from being undone or overridden
by font-lock has always been answered by
telling users to use property `font-lock-face',
which, in effect, still gives font-lock control
but tells it to consider such highlighting as
its own.
As far back as 2007 I proposed what library
font-lock+.el offers as another approach (I
provided a patch in bug #18367): putting a
non-nil text property of `font-lock-ignore'
on text that you don't want font-lock to
fiddle with.
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2022-04/msg00059.html
Neither `font-lock-face' nor
`font-lock-extra-managed-props' does the
same job (see previous discussions).
They just make `font-lock' _also_ manage the
text; e.g., turning off `font-lock-mode' also
turns off highlighting with the property.
The point is not to give font-lock more
control; it's to be able to remove control
by font-lock from given text.
See https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=18367#38
___
2014 emacs-devel thread:
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2014-08/msg00540.html
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2014-08/msg00583.html
2007 emacs-devel thread:
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2007-03/msg01459.html
Bug #18367 thread:
https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=18367
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-06-05 17:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-06-03 16:35 bug#71345: Feature: unleash font-lock's secret weapon; handle Qfontified = non-nil JD Smith
2024-06-03 16:56 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-06-03 21:14 ` JD Smith
2024-06-04 1:44 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-06-04 12:08 ` JD Smith
2024-06-04 14:15 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-06-04 15:38 ` JD Smith
2024-06-04 21:52 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-06-04 22:41 ` JD Smith
2024-06-05 11:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-05 14:02 ` JD Smith
2024-06-05 14:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-05 15:52 ` JD Smith
2024-06-05 17:00 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-06-05 17:24 ` Drew Adams via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors [this message]
2024-06-05 11:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-05 14:05 ` JD Smith
2024-06-05 16:28 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-06-05 16:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-05 16:59 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-06-05 17:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-05 18:13 ` JD Smith
2024-06-07 3:27 ` JD Smith
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