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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>, Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
Cc: Stephen Berman <stephen.berman@gmx.net>,
	Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	"1779@debbugs.gnu.org" <1779@debbugs.gnu.org>,
	Roland Winkler <winkler@gnu.org>
Subject: bug#1779: [External] : bug#1779: 23.0.60; proced with variable-pitch header line
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2021 18:51:05 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <SJ0PR10MB548878740B5F43A8133B9EC4F3619@SJ0PR10MB5488.namprd10.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <875yshxzt4.fsf@gnus.org>

> I had in mind a bigger change than that.  😀  tabulated-list-mode is
> nice, but there's things about it that makes it less suited to some work
> flows, so I'd like to make a new package for this.
> 
> The main problem is that it wants to own the buffer, and you can only
> have the table in it, and nothing else.

Yes, I've said that many times.  Glad it's finally
sunk in.  That's a sufficient reason that it should
not have been used in things like the bookmark list.
(Even adding it to buffer-menu was a mistake.)

> The other issue is that the
> interface functions are a bit obscure -- you set/manipulate a bunch of
> buffer-local variables, and then call some functions.

A more important weakness of t-l-mode is that it
doesn't support arbitrary sort functions - it
doesn't make it easy to sort other than by an
individual column.  

> I'd like to have a table that's an "object", with well-defined interface
> functions, and which allows you to have many tables in the same buffer,
> and mix with other text, too.
> 
> And with proportional fonts.  😀

To me, t-l-mode is too limited for most real,
useful uses of "tabular" data.  It should never
have been imposed on the bookmark list (I don't
use it in Bookmark+).  And it's useless for
things like Dired (thank goodness).  Maybe the
same for Ibuffer; dunno.

  reply	other threads:[~2021-11-24 18:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-04  8:23 bug#1779: 23.0.60; proced with variable-pitch header line Chong Yidong
2009-01-04 15:01 ` Stephen Berman
2009-01-04 15:46   ` Stefan Monnier
2010-12-05 23:30 ` Stephen Berman
2010-12-07 10:40   ` Stephen Berman
2011-07-10 14:47     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-07-11  3:36       ` Stefan Monnier
2011-07-15 17:54         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-07-15 21:05           ` Stephen Berman
2011-07-19 21:24             ` Stephen Berman
2009-01-03 22:02               ` Stephen Berman
2011-07-20  1:18                 ` Roland Winkler
2011-07-20  8:28                   ` Stephen Berman
2011-07-20  9:54                     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-11 22:22                       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-11 22:50                         ` Stephen Berman
2021-11-22 17:40                         ` Juri Linkov
2021-11-24  6:53                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-24  9:15                             ` Juri Linkov
2021-11-24 16:51                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-24 18:51                                 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2021-11-29 17:16                                 ` Juri Linkov
2021-11-29 18:05                                   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-11-29 18:47                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-29 18:55                                       ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2011-07-20 11:56                     ` Roland Winkler
2011-07-21 16:41                       ` Chong Yidong
2011-07-22  3:03                         ` Roland Winkler
2011-07-22  5:15                           ` Chong Yidong
2022-04-24 14:00                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2011-07-19 21:31               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

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