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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
	goncholden <goncholden@protonmail.com>
Cc: "55862@debbugs.gnu.org" <55862@debbugs.gnu.org>
Subject: bug#55862: Removing indent-tabs-mode set to t by default
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2022 17:41:18 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <SJ0PR10MB5488530A55A00DDE063B7551F3A79@SJ0PR10MB5488.namprd10.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8e7a8804-681f-200e-3c9b-c4947d059fe5@yandex.ru>

> It being a long-time default of ours has no effect on whether using
> tabs is a good idea (since Emacs is not particularly popular these days to
> affect global practive).
> 
> But you know my opinion on this anyway.

As long as reasons are being given, let me add this one:

People copy bits of code and paste that text into places
other than Emacs - online Q&A forums, email, etc.

TAB chars here and there due to `indent-tabs-mode' force
users to manually reformat the code - or at least to have
known about and thought to use `M-x untabify' beforehand.

This ex-Emacs use case is likely larger today than it was
decades ago.  Defaulting the var to t just produces more
bother and annoyance, especially for newbies (who are
less likely to use `untabify').

Just one more reason why the current default is not ideal.

Not that posting this here will help.  Except that it
might bring it to the attention of a few readers to whom
it might not have occurred.  


      parent reply	other threads:[~2022-06-09 17:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-09  3:19 bug#55862: Removing indent-tabs-mode set to t by default goncholden via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-06-09  5:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-09 12:40   ` goncholden via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-06-09 13:00     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-06-09 13:34       ` goncholden via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-06-09 13:38         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-06-09 15:53         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-09 13:12     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-09 14:05       ` goncholden via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-06-09 16:03         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-09 16:06         ` Drew Adams
2022-06-09 16:35           ` goncholden via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-06-09 14:11     ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-06-09 14:18       ` goncholden via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-06-09 14:30         ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-06-09 14:10   ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-06-09 14:21     ` goncholden via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-06-09 16:06       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-09 16:32         ` goncholden via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-06-09 16:52           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-09 16:44         ` goncholden via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-06-09 16:58           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-09 17:41     ` Drew Adams [this message]

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