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Though it will be somewhat > > backward-incompatible, if someone customizes mode-line and expects > > header-line to follow suit. >=20 > I think this would break a lot more than the current situation does. > Lots of people expect these faces to inherit the way they do, and have > set up stuff based on that. FWIW, I think folks should _not_ depend on any such predefined inheritances. Emacs shouldn't encourage it and should instead warn against it. (I'm not a fan of such predefined inheritance.) > Programmatic remapping of the `mode-line' > face, on the other hand, is a much smaller issue, Why do you think it's a much smaller issue? > we can just say "use `mode-line-active' instead". You can "just say" anything you like. This bug report is the kind of thing you'll see, as a starter. FWIW, I'm not in favor of changing what used to be face `mode-line' to face `mode-line-active'. I don't think that should have been necessary. Let's see why it came to this... You said earlier: > The new mode-line-active face was supposed to > fix the decoupling of mode-line and header-line. The answer for how to decouple those should have been for header-line to _not_ inherit mode-line. Never should have had that inheritance in the first place, IMO. Face inheritance is over(ab)used. Shouldn't be done by `emacs -Q` itself.