From: David Masterson <dsmasterson@gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, michel@schi.nz, 59882@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#59882: Multiple versions of Org in load-path problem
Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2022 23:43:05 -0800 [thread overview]
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In-Reply-To: <835yel11x8.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 09 Dec 2022 09:17:23 +0200")
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>> Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, 59882@debbugs.gnu.org
>> From: David Masterson <dsmasterson@gmail.com>
>> Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2022 13:56:03 -0800
>>
>> In my testing, I found a strange case where, in *scratch*, I get:
>>
>> (message "%s" org-version)
>> ;; Error undefined
>> ;; Do 'C-h v org-version'
>> (message "%s" org-version)
>> 9.3
>>
>> So, 'describe-variable' on org-version causes Org to be loaded?!?
>
> Why is it so surprising? Is this the first time you see that a Help
> command loads something to do its job?
Yes, it is surprising. How did Emacs know to load Org to find
org-version? I didn't request it to by this action. Or did it do a
package-activate-all (or similar) to ensure that everything was loaded?
That would be overkill. Sometimes the best answer is 'nil'.
--
David Masterson
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