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I wouldn't argue that the minibuffer itself needs to provide any such indication. (Some doc should perhaps mention it, however.) I agree with you about that. But the reply that users should expect "basic navigation keys" to "navigate basically" presents things in a distorted way. Basic navigation keys generally do work in the basic, i.e., ordinary way in the minibuffer. But and do NOT do so. Their normal/basic behavior is to move up or down a line of text. They _could_ do that in the minibuffer, but they don't. Likewise, `C-n' and `C-p'. So while I tend to agree that the minibuffer itself need not advertise what and do, the argument that you gave is specious, IMO. In fact, it argues the opposite: it argues that and (and `C-[n|p]') should "allow you to navigate basically", i.e., move up and down a line of minibuffer text. Not to mention that _cycling_ candidates is not a basic navigation behavior. It's not a navigation behavior at all. It doesn't move point or the mouse pointer, doesn't move focus, or do any of the things one might think of as "basic navigation" behavior.