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I'm somebody, and I claimed that explicitly. And I gave reasons why I find it superior. You can ignore my posts, but that doesn't annul their arguments. You, on the other hand, haven't provided any reason for what you want to do (except "smaller .elc file"). An empty claim of "it's better" is not a great argument. > easymenu.el is over-ripe for preloading since it's very hard to do much > in Emacs without it being pulled in anyway -- so you get no space > savings in practice, but just a slower Emacs. How is it "very hard to do much in Emacs" without pulling in easymenu? It's easymenu that's redundant, not "the non-easymenu way". Your claim that easymenu is a "better, more sensible way to define menus", and your claims that everything that can be done the "non-easymenu way" can be done with easymenu (and better and more sensibly), call out for replacing the non-easymenu way altogether. Are you arguing in favor of that? If not, why not?