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And because > this is a support feature, not an editing/application feature. Fair enough. Emacs is a volunteer endeavor. No volunteers for something means it won't be done. No one, AFAIK, is really directing troops to be applied to this or that development effort. So a decision about whether something would be good to have need not consider whether effort should be spent on it. As usual, someone with an itch scratches it - or not. > > But that's a general argument. Whether it's worth > > adding a separate command `describe-command' is a > > particular question and judgment. >=20 > Which is exactly what is being discussed here. Not the general and > theoretical questions, the specific and practical one. The general question was raised (by you, among others) as to the benefit of the kind of feature described. Whether, and how. people actually use completion for discovery. The answers tried to explain the whether (yes), the how, and the benefits. Your response to that was to immediately say that that's duplication, reinvention of the wheel, etc. And to immediately start talking about effort to be spent on it, as a way of saying we can't afford such a frivolous waste of energy on something that's essentially a duplication of what we already have. You kinda got what you asked for. And yes, I think it's good for Emacs developers to hear that such things are useful, and how they are, and why they are. And yes, some of that is far afield of this bug thread. That kind of thing is not new to bug discussions...