From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: goncholden via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#55862: Removing indent-tabs-mode set to t by default Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2022 14:05:49 +0000 Message-ID: References: <83h74u4csf.fsf@gnu.org> <83leu62d6e.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: goncholden Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="22504"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 55862@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 09 16:53:25 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nzJXI-0005ck-P0 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2022 16:53:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45212 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nzJXH-0005P8-Pp for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2022 10:53:23 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53716) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nzIoQ-0008Ml-Es for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2022 10:07:04 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:53235) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nzIoQ-0000fJ-5e for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2022 10:07:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nzIoP-0006ll-Tk for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2022 10:07:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: goncholden Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2022 14:07:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 55862 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix Original-Received: via spool by 55862-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B55862.165478357025956 (code B ref 55862); Thu, 09 Jun 2022 14:07:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 55862) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Jun 2022 14:06:10 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47132 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nzInZ-0006kZ-Q9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2022 10:06:10 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-4324.protonmail.ch ([185.70.43.24]:40147) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nzInW-0006jr-18 for 55862@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2022 10:06:08 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail3; t=1654783559; x=1655042759; bh=55musek9dMtLHvFmhR+/4wOlcJbCOVxoULf6qp6QyvM=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Reply-To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To: Feedback-ID:Message-ID; b=aQWFib0EfCAk/K/v4By8qWiArLTpL9EPAp9LkvOXpYXqxYyVcnOl0h2j7MfNXb/kn 8ucVWWVZwAJk+AXZfAg2p0YGhOkzFSQHYe2CJXCOpOeq1T1/hoKtm91oYkrRB0R7J8 EPLufWkLXeJjFaoYYDpjPTfykLx0ITpgKgCSljFoZH6V9zEIR9MOV7orKoQXRnWTkJ CoQPtMrhqh3Ng3eym4q7AR1ZPkkMFfR7XehHTBrlAHFJErctsiAZYXNcHHRoI/+lMI Z+IVL3zodypQBEW/jMtgd3qsK8K51JDQTaLvKjJiS+eRyunCsIApx8K2KNuC5VjRmx hhReMhdB9BbRw== In-Reply-To: <83leu62d6e.fsf@gnu.org> Feedback-ID: 43053548:user:proton X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" X-ACL-Warn: , goncholden Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:234082 Archived-At: A 2016 survey by Felipe Hoffa concluded that spaces far outpace tabs in eve= ry major programming language with the exceptions of C, one of the very old= est programming languages, and Google's Go. It is worth reconsidering the decision to stick with tabs in future. I do = not know of any mechanism to show (with some symbol) the beginning of each = tab and the end of a line when space happens at the end of a line. https://hoffa.medium.com/400-000-github-repositories-1-billion-files-14-ter= abytes-of-code-spaces-or-tabs-7cfe0b5dd7fd#.o7n8zeezx ------- Original Message ------- On Friday, June 10th, 2022 at 1:12 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2022 12:40:35 +0000 > > From: goncholden goncholden@protonmail.com > > Cc: 55862@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > > Of course, arguing about defaults is many times futile, since changin= g > > > them is very easy. > > > > It is not so easy because one also has to make the change based on majo= r mode. > > > Every major mode has a mode hook, and the usual way to customize a > mode is in that hook.