From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: carlmarcos--- via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#56215: Request for decluttering capability on mode-line keywords Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2022 10:34:30 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: References: <0c7b006177f251663dfa0f0e0d1e7344@webmail.orcon.net.nz-N5SKEQ_----2> Reply-To: carlmarcos@tutanota.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_640131_822296924.1656232470305" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="33359"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 56215@debbugs.gnu.org To: Phil Sainty Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 26 10:35:25 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1o5Njp-0008Vf-2s for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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But can be >> easily cluttered with >> names of minor-modes, as well as by programming and hypertext language >> major-mode names. >> >> For instance, loading an elisp file shows "Emacs-Lisp" in the >> made-line. When in *scratch* the string "Lisp Interaction" shows up. >> Because I use bold large font, it is easy for the mode-line to get >> cluttered. >> >> As is often the case, emacs users hardly change the mode associated >> with the corresponding programming or hypertext language major-mode. >> Most often, users work with minor-modes, meaning that people are aware >> that lisp programs use emacs-lisp major-mode, and C users are aware >> they are using c major-mode (although I find "C/*l" quite >> unnecessary). >> >> Emacs package designers have the ability to display a mode-line name >> with the keyword-arg `:lighter'. But the user has no way to remove the >> lighter from the mode-line. Would like to request the capability for >> users to remove :lighter keywords, if they wish. This would be >> particularly useful for those like me who usually have a dense list >> showing up in their mode-line. >> ------=_Part_640131_822296924.1656232470305 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Jun 26, 2022, 00:05 by psainty@orcon.net.nz:
<= blockquote class=3D"tutanota_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8= ; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;">
Hi Carl,

You might find the GNU ELPA package delight.el to be suitable.
=
See https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/DelightedModes for details.<= br>

There are other options as well, including the= se (and maybe
more besides):

htt= ps://emacs.stackexchange.com/a/72194/454

Because of the heap of packages that have been written, I would fav= our the capability to be included in the released version of emacs.  B= esides being a request that is not so obscure, `delight.el' breaks down for
`c-mode', `c++-mode', `php-mode', and possibly others.
<= /div>

Besides, going through s= even different implementations amounts to torture for users to decide.
<= /div>


Lars, I think this is a duplicate of bug#3= 0978 ?


-Phil

=


On 2022-06-26 01:08, carlmarcos---= via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" wrot= e:
The mode-line is a very important section of a= window. But can be
easily cluttered with
names= of minor-modes, as well as by programming and hypertext language
=
major-mode names.

For instance, loading a= n elisp file shows "Emacs-Lisp" in the
made-line. When in *sc= ratch* the string "Lisp Interaction" shows up.
Because I use = bold large font, it is easy for the mode-line to get
cluttere= d.

As is often the case, emacs users hardly ch= ange the mode associated
with the corresponding programming o= r hypertext language major-mode.
Most often, users work with = minor-modes, meaning that people are aware
that lisp programs= use emacs-lisp major-mode, and C users are aware
they are us= ing c major-mode (although I find "C/*l" quite
unnecessary).<= br>

Emacs package designers have the ability to di= splay a mode-line name
with the keyword-arg `:lighter'. But t= he user has no way to remove the
lighter from the mode-line. = Would like to request the capability for
users to remove :lig= hter keywords, if they wish. This would be
particularly usefu= l for those like me who usually have a dense list
showing up = in their mode-line.
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