From: Heime via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: 58804@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#58804: Inconsistency between ruler-mode, fill-column and whitespace-mode
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2022 06:15:23 +0000 [thread overview]
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On Thursday, October 27th, 2022 at 5:38 AM, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
> > Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2022 20:22:37 +0000
> > From: Heime via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs,
> > the Swiss army knife of text editors" bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
> >
> > Having set both fill-column and whitespace-line-column to 72, I noticed the following.
> >
> > ruler-mode has the left end marker at column 72
>
>
> Do you mean "right end marker"? I see no end marker at the left part
> of the display here, only the ¶ marker at the right.
Right End Marker actually.
> > but it should be at column 71 because column numbers start from 0.
>
>
> I don't follow: ruler-mode counts columns starting from zero, as
> everything in Emacs. If you move point to a column other than the
> leftmost one, you will see "0" at the left edge of the ruler display.
> So having the marker at column 72 is exactly right.
When one is using a box cursor, it is very confusing. If one has
whitespace-style with 'lines-char, the column with the Right Ruler Marker
gets highlighted. When users have a box cursor, it is convenient that
the Right Ruler Marker is placed on the last column where it is acceptable
to introduce a last character without exceeding line-column. Don't have
users always having to remember to add or subtract 1 in their head, but
have use visual reference for the last valid column.
Perhaps, you could introduce a new marker for that, and decide which one
to use? You could have an option to select the starting number, 0 or 1.
Or you might have something better in mind that would work well visually.
Particularly for those of us using box cursor.
> Are you seeing this in "emacs -Q"?
>
> > Here an improvement would be appreciated. That is, having
> > the ability to show a ruler variant that starts from value 1. When one uses a block cursor,
> > the ruler left marker would then mark exactly column 72. The user will knew that if he inputs
> > the next character he would have reached the line limit and the ruler left marker would coincide
> > with that position.
> It sounds like you want column numbers that start from 1, not zero?
> That should be a session-wide mode (if we want such an enhancement),
> since otherwise there could be confusion. We currently support
> one-based column only in the mode-line display under
> column-number-mode. Maybe you have turned that on, which is why you
> think there's a mismatch in ruler-mode?
Yes, to start from 1, not zero - when one uses a "box cursor". And yes,
I have both ruler-mode, whitespace-mode, and column-number-mode, all three
enabled. I would appreciate if I could make the necessary customisations
for all three to match.
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Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-10-26 20:22 bug#58804: Inconsistency between ruler-mode, fill-column and whitespace-mode Heime via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-10-27 5:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-27 6:15 ` Heime via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors [this message]
2022-10-27 6:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-27 7:10 ` Heime via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
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