From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Aleksandr Petrosyan Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#46926: Remove quotes from the highlighted symbols list Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2021 00:36:00 +0400 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="30569"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: 46926@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 15 01:59:14 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lLbZi-0007py-D5 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 15 Mar 2021 01:59:14 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50324 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lLbZh-0006VV-F2 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 14 Mar 2021 20:59:13 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:56260) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lLbZY-0006V3-79 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Mar 2021 20:59:04 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:51233) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lLbZX-0001cj-6v for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Mar 2021 20:59:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lLbZX-0000Ru-6e for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Mar 2021 20:59:03 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org In-Reply-To: Resent-From: Aleksandr Petrosyan Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2021 00:59:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 46926 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 46926-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B46926.16157699071617 (code B ref 46926); Mon, 15 Mar 2021 00:59:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at 46926) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Mar 2021 00:58:27 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34539 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lLbYv-0000Q0-NR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 14 Mar 2021 20:58:27 -0400 Original-Received: from forward101o.mail.yandex.net ([37.140.190.181]:60710) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lLXT7-0001Vo-AW for 46926@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 14 Mar 2021 16:36:11 -0400 Original-Received: from forward102q.mail.yandex.net (forward102q.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:c0e:1ba:0:640:516:4e7d]) by forward101o.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id EC3043C00A77 for <46926@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 14 Mar 2021 23:36:01 +0300 (MSK) Original-Received: from vla1-76c0d7cee0ec.qloud-c.yandex.net (vla1-76c0d7cee0ec.qloud-c.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:c0d:d87:0:640:76c0:d7ce]) by forward102q.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id E7E743A20002 for <46926@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 14 Mar 2021 23:36:01 +0300 (MSK) Original-Received: from vla5-047c0c0d12a6.qloud-c.yandex.net (vla5-047c0c0d12a6.qloud-c.yandex.net [2a02:6b8:c18:3484:0:640:47c:c0d]) by vla1-76c0d7cee0ec.qloud-c.yandex.net (mxback/Yandex) with ESMTP id fmUx90WIn3-a1HuhISo; Sun, 14 Mar 2021 23:36:01 +0300 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1615754161; bh=X5heuINneVYfODF6yZI621qyB9XqtNbxaxljBO7hJtk=; h=To:Subject:From:Message-Id:Date; b=PlxFUSK7X0Yhlu3uV/+DfE3qxNbjGTaDR3Gh49R3h/RHl9mA5oU4Q6nqtK/eMuWvp 507Ys3k4bSmjYcbXUXTfvfdefNasnF9ASuS3zghJYPbwieCLnPOvW7hveZr3Y794Qi D8m1NhNKeEdORxhp9GE6Go2W5CjnnJOh+rygV4i8= Authentication-Results: vla1-76c0d7cee0ec.qloud-c.yandex.net; dkim=pass header.i=@yandex.ru Original-Received: by vla5-047c0c0d12a6.qloud-c.yandex.net (smtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id ee2kxYV6Ny-a1n8LIK5; Sun, 14 Mar 2021 23:36:01 +0300 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client certificate not present) X-Mailer: iPad Mail (18D52) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 14 Mar 2021 20:58:24 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:202397 Archived-At: Dear all,=20 UI designer from KDE/Qt/Maui.=20 I agree that there are orthogonal design decisions at play here: quotes indi= cate that the object is a symbol. Then the link face indicates that it is al= so something that can be expanded upon. However, the quotes, while useful fo= r =E2=80=9Csomeone in the know=E2=80=9D, are distracting in text.=20 My preferred solution, would be to use a code face, specifically for symbols= and highlight the symbol such that it appears as every other symbol does in= emacs lisp. One can inherit the monospace font from GTK to distinguish from= documentation text. The link... it can be anything: it could be the documen= tation for the symbol, or the file which it=E2=80=99s defined in. A user nee= ds to know *exactly* what=E2=80=99s going to happen if they click, so if it=E2= =80=99s going to visit e.g. Python.el, and not the documentation of what Pyt= hon.el is part of, it=E2=80=99s better to say explicitly =E2=80=9Cvisit elis= p file=E2=80=9D. A button can serve better, but emacs has... ugly buttons an= d doesn=E2=80=99t use them very consistently, so a link is fine.=20 Sincerely=20 Aleksandr Petrosyan=