From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#3135: 23.0.92; doc of custom-variable-documentation Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 09:24:39 -0700 Message-ID: References: <002001c9c77d$603d9da0$0ab32382@us.oracle.com><2ACB4C4205C543BF810CFD7ABD0D424F@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1310404868 25875 80.91.229.12 (11 Jul 2011 17:21:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 17:21:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 3135@debbugs.gnu.org To: "'Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen'" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 11 19:21:04 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QgKAJ-0004ua-8Y for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 19:21:03 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55742 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QgKAH-0004op-LC for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 13:21:02 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:53895) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QgJI9-0007Dv-J5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 12:25:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QgJI7-0005dF-Oj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 12:25:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:53329) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QgJI7-0005d9-Ed for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 12:25:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QgJI6-0002k3-FZ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 12:25:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 16:25:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 3135 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug Original-Received: via spool by 3135-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B3135.131040149810529 (code B ref 3135); Mon, 11 Jul 2011 16:25:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 3135) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Jul 2011 16:24:58 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QgJI2-0002jm-0b for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 12:24:58 -0400 Original-Received: from rcsinet15.oracle.com ([148.87.113.117]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QgJHy-0002jN-0s for 3135@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 12:24:54 -0400 Original-Received: from acsinet22.oracle.com (acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238]) by rcsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.4/Switch-3.4.4) with ESMTP id p6BGOka3001143 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 11 Jul 2011 16:24:48 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt356.oracle.com (acsmt356.oracle.com [141.146.40.156]) by acsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p6BGOjmZ020164 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 11 Jul 2011 16:24:46 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt103.oracle.com (abhmt103.oracle.com [141.146.116.55]) by acsmt356.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id p6BGOeMf021640; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 11:24:40 -0500 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.194) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 09:24:40 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Acw/40ElcGUKpwXGQIS3aKSWi0SM7wAA20eQ X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 X-Source-IP: acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090203.4E1B23D0.004F:SCFMA922111,ss=1,re=-4.000,fgs=0 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 12:25:02 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:48622 Archived-At: > >> In my opinion, it's clear enough as it is. > > > > What makes it clear that VARIABLE is not necessarily a user variable > > (`user-variable-p')? > > It says nothing about VARIABLE being a special kind of variable, so it > seems pretty obvious to me that it's talking about all kinds of > variables. It might be clear to you, but not to users. Customize is all about user variables (options). We should be very clear whenever we mean a variable that is not necessarily a user variable. What does this added clarity cost? It's about _users_; it's not about Emacs Dev's ease in dispatching bugs summarily.