From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#9653: 24.0.50; `ucs-names' - Why all of the ("" . XXX) entries? Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 11:30:22 -0700 Message-ID: References: <83sjn8r553.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1317753108 7609 80.91.229.12 (4 Oct 2011 18:31:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 18:31:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 9653@debbugs.gnu.org To: "'Eli Zaretskii'" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 04 20:31:43 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RB9mH-0002Bs-VA for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2011 20:31:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37149 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RB9mH-00081c-II for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2011 14:31:41 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:60272) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RB9mB-0007y6-Vz for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2011 14:31:39 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RB9m7-0000XA-W6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2011 14:31:35 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:33390) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RB9m7-0000X6-TG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2011 14:31:31 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RB9nZ-0005qd-OB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2011 14:33:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2011 18:33:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 9653 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 9653-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B9653.131775312722407 (code B ref 9653); Tue, 04 Oct 2011 18:33:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 9653) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Oct 2011 18:32:07 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RB9mg-0005pL-NI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2011 14:32:07 -0400 Original-Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com ([141.146.126.227]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RB9md-0005pD-D4 for 9653@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2011 14:32:04 -0400 Original-Received: from ucsinet24.oracle.com (ucsinet24.oracle.com [156.151.31.67]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.4/Switch-3.4.4) with ESMTP id p94IUTu3010178 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 4 Oct 2011 18:30:31 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt358.oracle.com (acsmt358.oracle.com [141.146.40.158]) by ucsinet24.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p94IOeat005875 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 4 Oct 2011 18:24:41 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt113.oracle.com (abhmt113.oracle.com [141.146.116.65]) by acsmt358.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id p94IULNI015802; Tue, 4 Oct 2011 13:30:23 -0500 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.58.205) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Tue, 04 Oct 2011 11:30:21 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-reply-to: <83sjn8r553.fsf@gnu.org> Thread-Index: AcyCwjTrsejkn45tScaIa90NJUNwQQAAFbkw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 X-Source-IP: ucsinet24.oracle.com [156.151.31.67] X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090201.4E8B50C8.007F,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2011 14:33:01 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:52175 Archived-At: > Any questions? Yes, why are you explaining this? The question is not whether "this is expected" based on the current implementation. The question is whether that implementation does what we want. You seem to be answering the "Why?" of the Subject line with "how". No one gave any indication that how this happens is a mystery. The question posed by this bug thread is whether and why we want to have such unnamed characters in `ucs-names'. That's all. How those names happen to be there has never been in question. Almost half of the *many* names in `ucs-names' are non-names (empty) - that's 49,368 empty names. Is that really what we want? That's the question being discussed.